Thanks, I found if I use cached proxy. For the same 5000 slow clients , I only 
use 2 connections, is there a way to setup proxy region have the same behavior?

Nan


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From: Akihiro Kitada <[email protected]>
Sent: Oct 22, 2017 8:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: max out 800 connections

Hello Nan,

>I did some test and found when I have a lot of slow publisher (1 
>message/second), but 5000 of them. All publisher
>connect to a single client region(shared  among all publisher), that client 
>region use a lot of connections to geode
>server. is that normal?

Yes, it's normal according to the client side configuration and region 
configuration. Each client connections are pooled for a while according to 
idle-timeout setting at pool element of client side cache.xml.

http://geode.apache.org/docs/guide/12/reference/topics/client-cache.html#cc-pool<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__geode.apache.org_docs_guide_12_reference_topics_client-2Dcache.html-23cc-2Dpool&d=DwMFaQ&c=SFszdw3oxIkTvaP4xmzq_apLU3uL-3SxdAPNkldf__Q&r=HB5LZowSGF4DiMmOUsCX6Q&m=SEcNGapl3Lztl6TZiXCHsz-eJVHuXOMVkb7SS2Vrip8&s=XN7DC4Ewjhhc-0-xFDFA-Xit1ak28QWc8oLouU1kMBg&e=>

>Because when I use fewer but faster publisher, I can see a lot less connection 
>being used from client region to
>server region.  I think from server point of view, it’s almost the same load. 
>Why more connections?

I'm not sure how each publisher connect to a single client region. But if each 
publishers keeps one connection for a while according to idle-timeout setting 
at least, larger number of publishers could increase more number of 
connections, rather than faster publishers.

By the way, which region type do you have at server side in this context, 
Replicated region or Partitioned region? If you have Partitioned region and set 
pr-single-hop-enabled=true at client pool setting (default value), each client 
pools keeps more number of connections than expected because each client pools 
keep some connections for all the cache server processes hosting target regions 
by default.

>After a while, server max out 800 connections. Is that safe to increase this 
>number to let’s say 4000?

It depends on the number of cache servers in the distributed system in terms of 
file descriptors usage. Each client-server connections consumes 1 file 
descriptors. The number of TCP connections between cache servers (between 
peers, including locators) get increased according to the number of peers 
because each peers have TCP connections to communicate each others with rest of 
peers. Moreover, some more TCP connections are consumed for detecting 
membership failure based on circular network.

Anyhow, if you increase max-clients, you have to consider memory usage for TCP 
connections and maximum number of file descriptors in your system.

>Or it’s better to set client cache factory a max connection number?

It's one of the workaround. In such case, you have to consider that some of 
publishers may be timed out according to workloads at client side.

By the way, if you have Partitioned region and set pr-single-hop-enabled=true 
at client pool setting (default value), the number of client-server connection 
is managed by GemFire automatically and you can't set the maximum number of 
client pool connections.


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2017-10-21 5:11 GMT+09:00 Xu, Nan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Btw, pool-threadlocal-connection already set to false.

From: Xu, Nan
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [External email from 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 RE: max out 800 connections

Thanks for the answer.  I did some test and found when I have a lot of slow 
publisher (1 message/second), but 5000 of them. All publisher connect to a 
single client region(shared  among all publisher), that client region use a lot 
of connections to geode server. is that normal? Because when I use fewer but 
faster publisher, I can see a lot less connection being used from client region 
to server region.  I think from server point of view, it’s almost the same 
load. Why more connections? After a while, server max out 800 connections. Is 
that safe to increase this number to let’s say 4000? Or it’s better to set 
client cache factory a max connection number?

Thanks,
Nan

From: Akihiro Kitada [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:30 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: max out 800 connections

Hello Nan,

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> because current connection count of 800 is greater than or equal to the
>configured max of 800
   :
>Is the first line means max-connection is a server side settting?

It means that the number of client connections for the server exceeds 
max-connections setting in the server side setting at cache-server attribute.

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>The whole cluster only take 800 client connections? Or it’s a client side 
>setting, so each client can use up to 800 connections, so if I have 5 clients, 
>server side will be 4000 connections?

It's a server side configuration for the each servers. Each cache servers 
accepts 800 clients connections by default.

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>connection from Server connection from [client host address=171.135.144.71; 
>client port=45894] because
>incoming request was rejected by pool possibly due to thread exhaustion
  :
>Second line means no more thread on the server? I have about 4000 threads on 
>server. any way to limit geode use certain number of thread?

In this case, "pool" should mean the instance of 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor used for server connections. The size 
of this pool equals to max-connections. So, those both two warning messages 
basically indicate that the number of client connections exceeds 
max-connections setting.

The difference is that the first one is for client connections used for 'client 
to server' messages related to a client
   * queue (register interest, create cq, etc.) and the second one is for other 
purposes of client connections, according to the source code.

You can find exact parts at 
org.apache.geode.internal.cache.tier.sockets.AcceptorImpl by searching the 
following words.

* 
AcceptorImpl_REJECTED_CONNECTION_FROM_0_BECAUSE_CURRENT_CONNECTION_COUNT_OF_1_IS_GREATER_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO_THE_CONFIGURED_MAX_OF_2
* AcceptorImpl_REJECTED_CONNECTION_FROM_0_BECAUSE_REQUEST_REJECTED_BY_POOL

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2017-10-20 5:54 GMT+09:00 Xu, Nan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi,

    When load test our geode cluster, see those from our server log


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 because current connection count of 800 is greater than or equal to the 
configured max of 800

[warning 2017/10/19 16:00:47.220 EDT a1 <Handshaker 
0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0:40411<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__0.0.0.0_0.0.0.0-3A40411&d=DwMFaQ&c=SFszdw3oxIkTvaP4xmzq_apLU3uL-3SxdAPNkldf__Q&r=HB5LZowSGF4DiMmOUsCX6Q&m=4pec-ejmOPalR_OG4srZgdJe-wgObl1ciBp4drY-Ojk&s=dpA-r8BFw3ZIiLq781hQbvsakBv1is0Sy5zR68rvYxQ&e=>
 Thread 20> tid=0x11e9] Rejected connection from Server connection from [client 
host address=171.135.144.71; client port=45894] because incoming request was 
rejected by pool possibly due to thread exhaustion

We are client server setup.

Is the first line means max-connection is a server side settting?  The whole 
cluster only take 800 client connections? Or it’s a client side setting, so 
each client can use up to 800 connections, so if I have 5 clients, server side 
will be 4000 connections?

Second line means no more thread on the server? I have about 4000 threads on 
server. any way to limit geode use certain number of thread?

Thanks,
Nan



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