I was thinking about this and I believe the reason that the full resolved
class path is not considered is because it would include entries from both
the JRE classpath container and the Web-App Libraries classpath container.
Is this correct?  If it is, it would seem easier to just exclude those
classpath containers and then resolve the rest?

Thanks,
James

On 8/15/07, James Ervin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was just following up to see if anyone saw any side effects from
> considering the resolved classpath of a java project instead of just the raw
> classpath?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On 8/13/07, James Ervin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I was looking at the method a bit and it seems as though the only
> > classpath container that is recognized is the maven classpath container.
> > Perhaps by using the resolved classpath or by removing the if statement that
> > checks for the maven classpath container exclusively would be enough.  Maybe
> > the code could be simplified by using getResolvedClasspath() since I don' t
> > think you would need to call a resolveVarOrLibEntry() method anymore.
> >
> > Thanks for pointer btw...  You brightened my morning....
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > On 8/13/07, James Ervin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh that would be awesome.... thanks.... please let me know of your
> > > results ASAP.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > James
> > >
> > > On 8/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi James,
> > > > Looks like this is what you are looking for (I hit across this by
> > > > searching for "getRawClasspath" in plug-in source):
> > > > "processJavaProject() method of
> > > > org.apache.geronimo.st.core.operations.SharedLibEntryCreationOperation.javain
> > > >  plugins/org.apache.geronimo.st.core"
> > > >
> > > > Now seeing if changing this to getResolvedClasspath (as you
> > > > suggest), would lead to any side effects.
> > > >
> > > > - Shiva
> > > >
> > > > On 8/9/07, James Ervin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/8/07, Tim McConnell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi again James, Sorry for the delay but I've been trying to
> > > > > > fully understand
> > > > > > what you're trying to accomplish. Have you considered using the
> > > > > > shared lib
> > > > > > support that is already provided by the Geronimo plugin
> > > > > > publish/deploy
> > > > > > functionality ?? If I correctly understand what you're trying to
> > > > > > accomplish the
> > > > > > shared lib support should work for you. It's not obvious to me
> > > > > > though why you
> > > > > > are so adverse to using the built-in publish/deploy capabilities
> > > > > > of the plugin.
> > > > > > Finally, have you considered upgrading to the latest versions of
> > > > > > Geronimo and
> > > > > > the plugin ?? Geronimo 2.0 is currently being voted on for
> > > > > > release, and the
> > > > > > plugin will be voted on for release shortly thereafter. Just
> > > > > > curious. Thanks
> > > > > > much....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the reply, I actually am using a Publish Operation to
> > > > > set the shared library support, so yes I am using some of that 
> > > > > support.  The
> > > > > issue I am having is the fact that when the Geronimo plugin is 
> > > > > computing the
> > > > > <Project-Name>.eclipse.jar manifest for the 
> > > > > ${GERONIMO_HOME}/shared/lib
> > > > > directory, it seems to only consider the raw classpath from the 
> > > > > Eclipse
> > > > > JDT.  In other words, it appears almost as though its using
> > > > > org.eclipse.jdt.core.IJavaProject.getRawClasspath() instead of
> > > > > org.eclipse.jdt.core.IJavaProject.getResolvedClasspath().  I say
> > > > > almost, because it will resolve Classpath Variable entries.  The net 
> > > > > effect
> > > > > is that I have to hard code entries in the .classpath file for each 
> > > > > jar file
> > > > > I want in that manifest, but that is what classpath containers are 
> > > > > supposed
> > > > > to help you with.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have considered it, but the circumstances are such that I have
> > > > > to use what I am given so far.  I will look at version 2.0 and the
> > > > > latest from the plugin, but that leads me to one of my earlier 
> > > > > questions in
> > > > > my first post.  Where in the plugin do I look for where it is 
> > > > > computing the
> > > > > manifest for the <Project-Name>.eclipse.jar?  I have to admit I am a 
> > > > > bit of
> > > > > a newbie when it comes to EMF (I'm not sure that I hate it, but I 
> > > > > have yet
> > > > > to see what I really like about it.  The idea seems very interesting, 
> > > > > but I
> > > > > am not crazy about the results I have seen so far) and well the 
> > > > > Geronimo
> > > > > Plugin source tree seems almost as big as WTP's at this point, so any
> > > > > pointers would be most appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > James Ervin wrote:
> > > > > > > Tim,
> > > > > > > Thanks for the reply.  Reviewing the plugins installed it
> > > > > > looks as
> > > > > > > though the plugin is at version 1.0.0 with the
> > > > > > > org.apache.geronimo.runtime.v1 plugin at version 1.0.1.  Hmm I
> > > > > > don't see
> > > > > > > a feature.  I am not quite sure the version of geronimo.  It
> > > > > > comes
> > > > > > > bundled and is installed by a script so I am not entirely sure
> > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > version.  My educated guess is that it is at version 1.2.  The
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > of WTP is 1.5.x.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its not straightforward to offer a sample app, since I can't
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > offer up my plugin, so I will describe it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you add a project dependency for a web app, I noticed
> > > > > > that the
> > > > > > > Geronimo Eclipse plugin will generate a jar file in the
> > > > > > > ${GERONIMO_HOME}/shared/lib directory with the name
> > > > > > > ${PROJECT_NAME}.eclipse.jar.  In that jar there is a manifest
> > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > pointing at the java source output directories for the web app
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > > and the output directories for any project dependencies.  It
> > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > nice to customize that, but that is just fine for now.  The
> > > > > > shared/lib
> > > > > > > directory is also where I generate a jar file that contains a
> > > > > > manifest
> > > > > > > describing the set of shared libraries that all deployed web
> > > > > > apps will
> > > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I add a classpath entry directly in the .classpath file for
> > > > > > a library
> > > > > > > jar dependency, it will show in the
> > > > > > ${PROJECT_NAME}.eclipse.jar just
> > > > > > > fine.  The problem comes in that I want to use a classpath
> > > > > > container to
> > > > > > > resolve library dependencies and not have to manage entries
> > > > > > directly in
> > > > > > > the .classpath file.  Even when the container resolves down to
> > > > > > a set of
> > > > > > > flat jar files, it does not matter.  It seems that the plugin
> > > > > > does not
> > > > > > > check the resolved classpath of a java project and only checks
> > > > > > the raw
> > > > > > > classpath.  Shouldn't it construct the classpath by checking
> > > > > > all project
> > > > > > > dependencies and by using the resolved, and not raw,
> > > > > > classpath?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am faced with a significant rewrite right now if I cannot
> > > > > > figure out a
> > > > > > > solution, any help would be really appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > James
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/7/07, * Tim McConnell* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Hi James, which version of Geronimo and the Geronimo
> > > > > > plugin are you
> > > > > > >     using ??
> > > > > > >     Also, do you have an example test app that you could
> > > > > > attach that
> > > > > > >     demonstrates
> > > > > > >     the failure ??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     James Ervin wrote:
> > > > > > >      > Hello,
> > > > > > >      > I am a developer working on an Eclipse plugin
> > > > > > attempting to use
> > > > > > >     WTP to
> > > > > > >      > help ppl write Service Based web apps.  Why am I asking
> > > > > > a question on
> > > > > > >      > the geronimo user group?  Well because I am attempting
> > > > > > to use Apache
> > > > > > >      > Geronimo as the primary J2EE container.
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > My problem is this, I need to be able to deploy
> > > > > > libraries (yes I
> > > > > > >     know
> > > > > > >      > about the PublishOperation and that I can generate a
> > > > > > jar with a big
> > > > > > >      > manifest file enumerating all shared libraries) that
> > > > > > are only used by
> > > > > > >      > one particular web app or dependent web app.  So I have
> > > > > > a classpath
> > > > > > >      > container, the trouble is that the Apache Geronimo
> > > > > > plugin that I have
> > > > > > >      > access to does not seem to care about entries in
> > > > > > classpath
> > > > > > >     containers,
> > > > > > >      > only those that are directly enumerated in a .classpath
> > > > > > file (bad
> > > > > > >     form
> > > > > > >      > IMHO).
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > I have attempted to deploy libs into
> > > > > > WebContent/WEB-INF/lib, but on
> > > > > > >      > windows WTP ( or some plugin ) keeps the bloody file
> > > > > > lock and
> > > > > > >     will not
> > > > > > >      > let me update or delete it.  I even attempted to deploy
> > > > > > the libs
> > > > > > >     to a
> > > > > > >      > separate directory and then told WTP via a
> > > > > > <wb-resource/> tag in
> > > > > > >     the WST
> > > > > > >      > common component configuration file where to find
> > > > > > it.  The lib
> > > > > > >     showed up
> > > > > > >      > in the list of WebApp Libraries, but then when deployed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >     Geronimo it
> > > > > > >      > was not recognized.
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > I have tried this and a few other combinations.  The
> > > > > > only one
> > > > > > >     that has
> > > > > > >      > worked is if I create a new shared lib entry jar (bad
> > > > > > form since
> > > > > > >     not all
> > > > > > >      > web apps on the container will want the given set of
> > > > > > libraries)
> > > > > > >     or if I
> > > > > > >      > enumerate the libraries one by one directly in the
> > > > > > .classpath
> > > > > > >     (classpath
> > > > > > >      > containers anyone?).
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > Is there anyway to make the plugin respect the
> > > > > > classpath
> > > > > > >     container?  Or
> > > > > > >      > at least give me a clue through the bloody EMF
> > > > > > wilderness as to
> > > > > > >     where in
> > > > > > >      > the plugin the deployment configuration is determined
> > > > > > so that I can
> > > > > > >      > consider my options (you know like a patch...)?  I am
> > > > > > at my wits end,
> > > > > > >      > any help would be most appreciated.
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > Thanks,
> > > > > > >      > --
> > > > > > >      > James E. Ervin
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan
> > > > > > an invasion,
> > > > > > >      > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a
> > > > > > sonnet,
> > > > > > >     balance
> > > > > > >      > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > >     orders, give
> > > > > > >      > orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze
> > > > > > a new problem,
> > > > > > >      > pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
> > > > > > fight
> > > > > > >     efficiently,
> > > > > > >      > die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
> > > > > > >      > -Robert A. Heinlein
> > > > > > >      >
> > > > > > >      > Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     --
> > > > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > > >     Tim McConnell
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > James E. Ervin, IV
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
> > > > > > invasion,
> > > > > > > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
> > > > > > balance
> > > > > > > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
> > > > > > orders, give
> > > > > > > orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
> > > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
> > > > > > efficiently,
> > > > > > > die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
> > > > > > > -Robert A. Heinlein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Tim McConnell
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > James E. Ervin, IV
> > > > >
> > > > > A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> > > > > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
> > > > > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, 
> > > > > give
> > > > > orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, 
> > > > > pitch
> > > > > manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
> > > > > gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
> > > > > -Robert A. Heinlein
> > > > >
> > > > > Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > James E. Ervin, IV
> > >
> > > A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> > > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
> > > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give
> > > orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, 
> > > pitch
> > > manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
> > > gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
> > > -Robert A. Heinlein
> > >
> > > Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > James E. Ervin, IV
> >
> > A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
> > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give
> > orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch
> > manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
> > gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
> > -Robert A. Heinlein
> >
> > Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> James E. Ervin, IV
>
> A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher
> a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts,
> build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,
> cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure,
> program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects.
> -Robert A. Heinlein
>
> Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com
>



-- 
James E. Ervin, IV

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a
hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build
a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate,
act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein

Blog: http://iacobus.blogspot.com

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