Yes, that helps a lot. It's not the answer I wanted, but it does answer the question :).
I guess that means I'll have to play around and see what can be done. How do separate classloaders work with statics (fields, etc). e.g. If I have a class A with static field B in the WAR, and again in the EJB jar, will I have two instances of that field, such that the WAR has one (because it has it's own separate classloader), and the EJB will have another? If so, then that's a problem. I don't know much about Java Beans or Enterprise Java Beans, so this might be a bit silly, but: Can I put the MDB in the WAR? Or does it *have to* have it's own JAR? On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:03 PM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 26, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Thorburn wrote: > > Ok, it now works. Well, kinda. >> >> I think I must have originally also had a lib directory directly inside >> the EAR, as well as in the WAR, which was what was confusing Geronimo. >> Removed that, and my bean didn't start. Removed the (small but important) >> bits of code that relied on that, and everything works. Except it doesn't do >> logging anymore for my MDB. Works fine everywhere else. >> >> Apologies for not having the faintest idea what my problem was, but there >> we go. I now have a new problem, however: How do I reference the stuff in >> the WAR from my MDB JAR? I'm sure I saw information on this somewhere, but I >> closed it because I thought I had a different problem :(. I can't duplicate >> the JARS, as I'm sure that'll cause a vast multitude of problems. I really >> just want to be able to reference them easily, so that I don't have to worry >> about this when coding my application. In fact, it's going to be very >> necessary to communicate between the WAR and the MDB for it to be of any use >> at all (AJAX stuff communicating between browser and database via Java app). >> Basically need the WAR to be processed first, and then have the MDB JAR >> processed, so that I can then reference all the classes in the WAR. >> >> Is this possible? If not, what's the best alternative? Can I chuck my MDB >> into the WAR? I'd be very surprised if I could do that. And I don't know if >> that would solve any of my issues anyway... >> >> The exact location of the classfiles doesn't matter, just so long as it >> all works... >> >> Feh. This is starting to do my head in. Won't be posting again for nearly >> 24 hours (I only work part-time). >> > > I'm not sure I've understood clearly what problem you are having. Maybe if > I explain the classloader structure your app has and what I think you need > to do it will help. > > For an ear based application with no javaee app clients, there is one > "base" classloader that includes all the ejb jars, all the rars, and all the > jars in the lib directory. > > Then for each war inside the ear, there is a separate classloader that is a > child of the ear classloader that contains the jars in WEB-INF/lib and the > classes in WEB-INF/classes. Since this is a child of the ear classloader, > all the code in the war can see the classes in the ear (ejb, connector, and > lib). Also, since these war classloaders are children of the ear, nothing > in an ejb, connector or lib jar can see anything in any war classloader. > > I think what you need to do is put any classes that need to be accessible > to both the ejb app (such as your mdb) and the war(s) in either the ejb jar > or in a jar in the ear's lib directory. Putting any such class anywhere in > any war file will definitely prevent it being accessible from the ejb > application. > > Hope this relates to what you are asking about :-) > david jencks > >> >> >> Anyway, thanks again, >> >> - Andrew >> > >