Hi ...my name is Susanna Dion Gillard's wife .
He passed away Sept 2008 .Apacahe foundation is aware .
Thanks and sorry to deliver this via mail.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Tom Eyckmans <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> 2009/3/5 Martin Zdila <[email protected]>
>
>> Hello
>>
>> We are working on a project consisting on multiple projects and are using
>> Apache Ivy for defining dependencies between projects and between third
>> party
>> libraries. Dependencies are described in ivy.xml files so it works well
>> also
>> with the IvyDE Eclipse plugin. For building, we are using Apache Ant.
>> Unfortunately we have come to the point when ant prooves itself to be
>> insufficient for reaching our requirements. We need special dynamic
>> building
>> features that and itself cannot provide.
>>
>> Therefore we'd like to use some more suitable building system. Gradle
>> seems to
>> be able to fulfill our needs.I personally don't like much the conventions
>
> (defaults, implicit values) because I rather specify all mandatory
>> properties
>> manually so I allways know what property is set to what value. I also
>> don't
>> like that the one functionality can be written in many ways - then it
>> looks
>> like a perl, where each programmer writes in his own way and then other
>> programmers can hardly understand the code. I would also rather write my
>> build
>> scripts in java than in groovy. I wouldn't mind the code verbosity. It is
>> better for me than that amount of the groovy's syntactic sugar.
>
>
> This is indeed a rather personal preferrence that might be adressed in a
> future release as we plan to support more than only Groovy build scripts.
>
>>
>>
>> In any case, Gradle seems to be is still better than Ant. But the major
>> blocker from starting to use gradle is its (in)ability to reuse existing
>> ivy.xml files.
>
> As far as I'm aware Gradle currently doesn't support this however we do
> plan to add such a feature as there is already a JIRA for it
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GRADLE-197.
>
>
>> We don't want to specify dependencies in the gradle files but
>> want still to benefit from other gradle dependency/multiproject features.
>> According to the manual this should be possible,
>
> Could you point out to the section of the userguide that made you come to
> this conclusion so we can clear it up?
>
>
>> but we've found no example
>> how to use it. We want to stay using ivy.xml because of IvyDE
>> (autocompletion
>> and library/project dependency handling inside eclispe). So, is this
>> actually
>> possible with gradle? If yes, then how?
>>
>> The best for us would actually be building system where we can write build
>> rules directly in the java and then compile it all. Actually a great would
>> be
>> just a building library providing ant-like tasks (not ant.jar, as it
>> relies on
>> some of its weird principles). Is there something like that? I know, I am
>> in
>> the gradle mailing list, but maybe somebody can help :-).
>>
>> We'll appreciate any help.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Martin Zdila
>> CTO
>>
>> M-Way Solutions Slovakia s.r.o.
>> Letna 27, 040 01 Kosice
>> Slovakia
>>
>> tel:+421-908-363-848
>> mailto:[email protected]
>> http://www.mwaysolutions.com
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>> skype:m.zdila
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-- 
dIon Gillard
There are only two kinds of programming languages: those people always bitch
about and those nobody uses. (Bjarne Stroustrup)

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