On 14 January 2013 09:56, Kris De Volder <[email protected]> wrote:
> On the topic of using 'gradle-eclipse' or 'eclipse-gradle' plugins :-) > > I'd say that ideally the IDE can just use the tooling API and import > projects without > project owners doing anything special to make that possible. > > But in practice the tooling API is still too limited to make that reality > for all types of > projects. The 'gradle-eclipse' plugin in Gradle is much more developed, > and it is also > easier for gradle-users to write some gradle code and extend the > functionality when it doesn't > work exactly right for their particular project's needs. > > So I'd say if your project works well without the gradle-eclipse plugin, > then that's > preferable. But for many real project's unfortunately I don't think that > will be > true today. > > So I guess my answer is, we probably need both for the foreseeable future. > The plugins work well together: the gradle-eclipse plugin adds hooks that can be used to customise the resulting project, and these customisations are honoured by the eclipse-gradle plugin. So as Kris notes, there are many projects that require the 'gradle eclipse plugin' to be configured in order for the Eclipse gradle plugin to function correctly. Daz And as a tool developer (I work on the STS gradle plugin) I try to support > both types > of projects (those that explicitly use gradle-eclipse plugin and those > that do not). > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > The STS gradle page pointed to earlier is a bit outdated. That was > > the first version of the plugins released publically. Nowadays the > > project is open sourced and hosted at github. So better to take a > > look here for more current information. > > > > https://github.com/SpringSource/eclipse-integration-gradle > > > > And yes it should work on Eclipse 4.x. > > > > The gradle plugins for Eclipse now also do not have as strong > > dependencies on STS anymore and can > > easily be installed separately into a plain Eclipse. > > > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > On 01/12/2013 09:34 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > > > > IntelliJ IDEA seems now to be able to work with Gradle managed > > > > projects > > > > without first creating a set of project files. This appears to > > > > make > > > > the > > > > Gradle IDEA plugin redundant? Or am I missing something? > > > > > > I haven't used the idea plugin. But, it seems like it would be > > > useful > > > for creating idea projects without having to launch idea and > > > without > > > making your project dependent on idea. > > > > > > Unless it is obviously short lived, I act as if my projects will > > > outlive > > > the techology that it is using. So, I avoid tying a project to an > > > IDE > > > or > > > to the existence of a third party external website, or independent > > > repository. > > > > > > Unless I am not understanding, I think the idea plugin is a > > > convience > > > for users who want to us idea. It doesn't make your project depend > > > on > > > it. > > > > > > Kendall > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > > > > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > >
