Hope you are using hadoop-2.6 release.

As you are targeting to amount of time it’s getting processed, your proposed 
configs options ( ipc.ping.interval and split threshold can be changed)  should 
be fine .  I mean to say, 2nd and 3rd options.

You can try once, let’s know.


Had seen related issue recently , may be you can have look at HDFS-10301.



--Brahma Reddy Battula

From: Chackravarthy Esakkimuthu [mailto:chaku.mi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 May 2016 18:10
To: Gokul
Cc: user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Guideline on setting Namenode RPC Handler count (client and 
service)

To add more details on why NN startup delayed while setting handler count as 
600.

We are seeing many duplicate full block reports (FBR) from most of the DN's for 
long time (around 3 hours since NN startup) even though NN comes out of safe 
mode in 10 or 15 mins. Since NN comes out of safe mode, duplicate FBR's are not 
rejected.

It's because DN getting timeout (ipc.ping.interval=60s default) on block report 
RPC call before NN completes processing the blockReport RPC call (takes around 
70-80 secs). Hence DN does not realise that FBR got processed and it kept 
trying to send again. But NN has processed it already and gets error only while 
sending output.

The reason why NN takes more than 1 min to process FBR :

  *   FBR contains array of storageBlockReport. (no of data directories 
configured is 10)
  *   Name system write lock is acquired on processing each storageBlockReport 
and hence single handler thread cannot just complete processing FBR completely 
once it acquires the lock.
  *   There is a lock contention with other 599 handler threads who are also 
busy in processing FBR from all DN's. Hence acquiring lock gets delayed and 
then next storageBlockReport gets processed.

     *   t -> storageBlockReport[0]   --> Handler thread starts FBR processing.
     *   t + 5s -> storageBlockReport[1]
     *   t + 12s ->  storageBlockReport[2]
     *   ...
     *   ...
     *   t + 70s -> storageBlockReport[9]  --> Handler thread completes FBR 
processing.

We are looking for some suggestion to resolve this situation of having delayed 
start of NN. (delayed start means even though NN comes out of safe mode, 
because of duplicate FBR, serviceRPC latency remains high and skips the 
heartbeat for more than 1 minute continuously)

Possible config options are :

  1.  Current value for dfs.blockreport.initialDelay is 120s. This can be 
increased to 10 - 15 mins to avoid block report storm.
  2.  Increase ipc.ping.interval from 60s to 90s or so.
  3.  Decrease dfs.blockreport.split.threashold to 100k (from 1M) so that block 
reports from DN will be sent for each storageBlock. Hence DN would get the 
response quickly from NN. But this would delay in sending the heartbeat as each 
RPC call might consume upto 60 secs timeout. Hence heartbeat might get delayed 
for 590s (worst case if all rpc calls succeed consuming 59s).
Or can we move the write lock at higher level and take it once, process all 
storageBlockReports and release it. because from logs, we have seen that each 
storageBlockReport processing takes 20ms-100ms and hence single FBR would 
consume 1s. Also since FBR calls are not that frequent, (block report once in 6 
hours in our cluster / when disk failure happens) Is it ok to reduce the lock 
granularity?

Please give suggestion on the same. Also correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks,
Chackra


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Gokul 
<gokulakanna...@gmail.com<mailto:gokulakanna...@gmail.com>> wrote:
*bump*

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Chackravarthy Esakkimuthu 
<chaku.mi...@gmail.com<mailto:chaku.mi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Is there any recommendation or guideline on setting no of RPC handlers in 
Namenode based on cluster size (no of datanodes)?

Cluster details :

No of datanodes - 1200
NN hardware - 74G heap allocated to NN process, 40 core machine
Total blocks - 80M+
Total Files/Directories - 60M+
Total FSObjects - 150M+

We have isolated service and client RPC by enabling service-rpc.

Currently dfs.namenode.handler.count=400 and 
dfs.namenode.service.handler.count=200

Is 200 good fit for this cluster or any change recommended. Please help out.

Thanks in advance!

(We have tried increasing service handler count to 600 and have seen delay in 
NN startup time and then it looked quite stable. And setting it to 200 
decreases the delay in startup time but it has slightly higher rpcQueueTime and 
rpcAvgProcessingTime comparing to 600 handler count.)

Thanks,
Chackra



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Thanks and Regards,
Gokul

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