When I get a chance to catch my breath I'll see about writing up something on 
our experiences. One thing I will say - don't skimp on the nodes, you do not 
want to run out of RAM when using the large values. When running my dev 
environment in pseudo distributed mode on a laptop the system can have trouble 
(nothing that is not recoverable though) when the regionserver runs out of 
memory dealing with the large value.

-chris




On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans wrote:

> That's pretty good stuff Chris! You know, you could be my new BFF if
> you wrote a blog post about your current HBase setup, experiences, etc
> :)
> 
> J-D
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>> Yes, HBASE-3483 fixed the majority of our pauses, but not all - as JD points 
>> out we do experience issues related to inserting into several column 
>> families. Luckily inserts that have the really imbalanced column family 
>> sizes (mb vs kb) are few and far between, relatively speaking. We are also 
>> "throttled" by going through thrift, but even then I can push our 10 node 
>> cluster to over 200k requests a second.
>> 
>> -chris
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Ryan Rawson wrote:
>> 
>>> Probably the soft limit flushes, eh?
>>> On Mar 8, 2011 11:15 AM, "Jean-Daniel Cryans" <jdcry...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Chris Tarnas <c...@email.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just as a point of reference, in one of our systems we have 500+million
>>> rows that have a cell in its own column family that is about usually about
>>> 100bytes, but in about 10,000 of rows the cell can get to 300mb (average is
>>> probably about 30mb for the larger data). The jumbo sized data gets loaded
>>> in separately from the smaller data, although it all goes through the same
>>> pipeline. We are using cdh3b45 (0.90.1) GZ compression, region size of 1GB
>>> and with a max value size of 500mb. So far we have had no problems with the
>>> larger values.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our largest problem was performance related to inserting into several
>>> column families for the small sized value loads and pauses when flushing the
>>> memstores. 0.90.1 helped quite a bit with that.
>>>> 
>>>> Flushing is done without blocking, were the pauses you were seeing
>>>> related to the "too many stores" issue or about the global memstore
>>>> size?
>>>> 
>>>> In general inserting into many families is a bad idea unless the sizes
>>>> are the same. The worst case is inserting a few kbs in one and a few
>>>> mbs in the other. The reason being:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-3149
>>>> 
>>>> J-D
>> 
>> 

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