> It's part of the mindset shift you have to go through coming from a database 
>world to a NoSQL world

This is useful. If you have more insights like this Ian and care to share them, 
I think we would be really interested to hear them.

Best regards,


   - Andy


Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via 
Tom White)


>________________________________
>From: Ian Varley <ivar...@salesforce.com>
>To: "user@hbase.apache.org" <user@hbase.apache.org>
>Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:36 AM
>Subject: Re: TTL for cell values
>
>"I am slightly confused now. Time to live is used in networking , after n
>hops drop this packet. Also used I'm memcache , expire this data n seconds
>after insert. I do not know of any specific ttl features in rdbms so I do not 
>understand
>why someone would expect  ttl to he permanently durable."
>
>Edward, my mistake was originally assuming that the TTL applied only to *old* 
>versions of a cell (I.e. not the most recent one). It was a misunderstanding 
>on my part, based on the fact that there *are* no TTL features in an RDBMS 
>(you only get rid of the current value by issuing an explicit delete).
>
>HBase is light years ahead of an RDBMS in the way it explicitly handles the 
>time dimension; I just wasn't expecting this facet of that behavior. It's part 
>of the mindset shift you have to go through coming from a database world to a 
>NoSQL world; you can treat parts of your store as a transient cache if you 
>want to (which is useful in all kinds of situations). Just needed to expand my 
>brain to consider that ... :)
>
>Ian
>
>
>On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:30 AM, "Edward Capriolo" 
><edlinuxg...@gmail.com<mailto:edlinuxg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>I am slightly confused now. Time to live is used in networking , after n
>hops drop this packet. Also used I'm memcache , expire this data n seconds
>after insert.
>
>I do not know of any specific ttl features in rdbms so I do not understand
>why someone would expect  ttl to he permanently durable.
>
>
>

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