I expect (without double checking the path in the code ;-) that the
code in HConnectionManager will retry.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Suraj Varma <svarma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes.
>
> On the maxRetries, though ... I saw the code
> (http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.apache.hbase/hbase/0.90.2/org/apache/hadoop/hbase/ipc/HBaseClient.java#677)
> show
> this.maxRetries = conf.getInt("hbase.ipc.client.connect.max.retries", 0);
>
> So - looks like by default, the maxRetries is set to 0? So ... there
> is effectively no retry (i.e. it is fail-fast)
> --Suraj
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, N Keywal <nkey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the jira.
>> The client can be connected to multiple RS, depending on the rows is
>> working on. So yes it's initial, but it's a dynamic initial :-).
>> This said there is a retry on error...
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Suraj Varma <svarma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I will create a JIRA ticket ...
>>>
>>> The only side-effect I could think of is ... if a RS is having a GC of
>>> a few seconds, any _new_ client trying to connect would get connect
>>> failures. So ... the _initial_ connection to the RS is what would
>>> suffer from a super-low setting of the ipc.socket.timeout. This was my
>>> read of the code.
>>>
>>> So - was hoping to get a confirmation if this is the only side effect.
>>> Again - this is on the client side - I wouldn't risk doing this on the
>>> cluster side ...
>>> --Suraj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM, N Keywal <nkey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> What you're describing -the 35 minutes recovery time- seems to match
>>>> the code. And it's a bug (still there on trunk). Could you please
>>>> create a jira for it? If you have the logs it even better.
>>>>
>>>> Lowering the ipc.socket.timeout seems to be an acceptable partial
>>>> workaround. Setting it to 10s seems ok to me. Lower than this... I
>>>> don't know.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Suraj Varma <svarma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello:
>>>>> I'd like to get advice on the below strategy of decreasing the
>>>>> "ipc.socket.timeout" configuration on the HBase Client side ... has
>>>>> anyone tried this? Has anyone had any issues with configuring this
>>>>> lower than the default 20s?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --Suraj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Suraj Varma <svarma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> By "power down" below, I mean powering down the host with the RS that
>>>>>> holds the .META. table. (So - essentially, the host IP is unreachable
>>>>>> and the RS/DN is gone.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wanted to clarify my below steps ...
>>>>>> --S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Suraj Varma <svarma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>> We've been doing some failure scenario tests by powering down a .META.
>>>>>>> holding region server host and while the HBase cluster itself recovers
>>>>>>> and reassigns the META region and other regions (after we tweaked down
>>>>>>> the default timeouts), our client apps using HBaseClient take a long
>>>>>>> time to recover.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hbase-0.90.6 / cdh3u4 / JDK 1.6.0_23
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Process:
>>>>>>> 1) Apply load via client app on HBase cluster for several minutes
>>>>>>> 2) Power down the region server holding the .META. server
>>>>>>> 3) Measure how long it takes for cluster to reassign META table and
>>>>>>> for client threads to re-lookup and re-orient to the lesser cluster
>>>>>>> (minus the RS and DN on that host).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we see:
>>>>>>> 1) Client threads spike up to maxThread size ... and take over 35 mins
>>>>>>> to recover (i.e. for the thread count to go back to normal) - no calls
>>>>>>> are being serviced - they are all just backed up on a synchronized
>>>>>>> method ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Essentially, all the client app threads queue up behind the
>>>>>>> HBaseClient.setupIOStreams method in oahh.ipc.HBaseClient
>>>>>>> (http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.apache.hbase/hbase/0.90.2/org/apache/hadoop/hbase/ipc/HBaseClient.java#312).
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7js53dj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After taking several thread dumps we found that the thread within this
>>>>>>> synchronized method was blocked on
>>>>>>>    NetUtils.connect(this.socket, remoteId.getAddress(), 
>>>>>>> getSocketTimeout(conf));
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Essentially, the thread which got the lock would try to connect to the
>>>>>>> dead RS (till socket times out), retrying, and then the next thread
>>>>>>> gets in and so forth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Solution tested:
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> So - the ipc.HBaseClient code shows ipc.socket.timeout default is 20s.
>>>>>>> We dropped this down to a low number (1000 ms,  100 ms, etc) and the
>>>>>>> recovery was much faster (in a couple of minutes).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So - we're thinking of setting the HBase client side hbase-site.xml
>>>>>>> with an ipc.socket.timeout of 100ms. Looking at the code, it appears
>>>>>>> that this is only ever used during the initial "HConnection" setup via
>>>>>>> the NetUtils.connect and should only ever be used when connectivity to
>>>>>>> a region server is lost and needs to be re-established. i.e it does
>>>>>>> not affect the normal "RPC" actiivity as this is just the connect
>>>>>>> timeout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I reading the code right? Any thoughts on how whether this is too
>>>>>>> low for comfort? (Our internal tests did not show any errors during
>>>>>>> normal operation related to timeouts etc ... but, I just wanted to run
>>>>>>> this by the experts.).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that this above timeout tweak is only on the HBase client side.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --Suraj

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