The i2 class instance is in the latest generation of instance in EC2 so has
newer everything, and has SSD.  That's the biggest difference between
m2.4xlarge.  HBase is by no means optimized for SSD but we did notice that
these perform MUCH better than the traditional disks in EC2.  Our workload
is very mixed, but we do have clusters that follow a usual analytics
workload and those too use the SSD instances.

I think you should test the different types out and see which gives you the
performance you need at the price you can afford.

I have never seen the HMaster be the bottleneck.  The only thing I can
think of for that is if your clients are not caching region locations
(which it does by default I believe).  Also, what do you mean by the
cluster freezes?  Is it writes from the client POV that stop?  Or do you
log into a server and see certain metrics being saturated (cpu, iowait,
network, etc).  Do you see "callQueueLen" on the regionserver metrics
spiking?  These caps out at 10x the number of RPC handlers you have
configured.  Calls queue up if your RS is overloaded, and that value gets
incremented.

What I'm getting at is we should make sure we are debugging the right
problem.  If your RS seem completely fine, it could be a client issue.  If
your callQueueLen spikes to the max value then yes there is likely a
problem on the server side.  You can look for responseTooSlow log lines, or
log lines about blocking writes (this happens when the memstore needs to
flush but cant because you have more than hbase.hstore.blockingStoreFiles
store files in a region.

If this is analytics, you could be hot spotting depending on how your key
is set up.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh> wrote:

> Bryan,
>
> Thanks so much for the in depth details. The workload I am trying to
> account for is write heavy/scan heavy. This is an analytics cluster that
> will need about 500-5000 w/s and handle map reduce jobs. I see your
> recommendation of the i2.2xl, would you recommend this over the m2.4xlarge?
> They seem to be the same except for price.
>
> The behavior I am seeing on my current cluster is basically a dead lock,
> where no writes/reads get through for a period. Then a small burst of
> writes/reads happen and the cluster freezes yet again. If I could just get
> this thing to event except a few writes all the systems would be fine, but
> for now all the write queues on our app are filling up and OOMing
> eventually due to this.
>
> Our writes are like so:
>
> api queues a batch of 100 events -> write to one of 17 thrift servers
> connections (persistent) -> if fail, back off retry
>
> Also the weediest behavior I have noticed about this lag/outage is that
> the master Hbase daemon is eating all the CPU whereas before it barely had
> more than a 1.0 load. Is it possible the master is in some way broken and
> slowing everything down?
>
> -Pere
>
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Bryan Beaudreault <bbeaudrea...@hubspot.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The problem is regions dont get uniform writes, but HLogs are on a
> > regionserver level (at least in hbase 0.94), so that shouldn't be a
> > problem.  I would keep it how it is.
> >
> > Also this may not fix everything but will reduce compaction load.  You
> can
> > also up hbase.hstore.compaction.max to compact more files at once when it
> > does.
> >
> > Also, just noticed you are using m2.2xlarge.  I wouldn't recommend this.
> > It only has 1 ephemeral store, so maybe you are using EBS?  We've had
> > performance issues with EBS in the past.  An EBS outage will also
> possibly
> > bring down your whole cluster. If you are just using 1 disk, that will
> not
> > be great either in terms of r/s.  It also caps at 500Mbps network and has
> > only 13 ECUs.
> >
> > Looks like you are only at 3TB of data currently.  I think you could get
> a
> > substantial boost from using 5 or 6 i2.2xlarge instead of 15 m2.2xlarge,
> > for about the same price and have room to grow data-size wise.  You might
> > also try c1.xlarge which are more on-par price wise with more disk, but
> > I've found the amount of memory on those restricting.  At HubSpot we use
> > i2.4xlarge, but we also have about 250 of them.  I'd just recommend
> trying
> > different setups, even the c3 level would be great if you can shrink your
> > disk size at all (compression and data block encodings).
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh> wrote:
> >
> >> So set this property?
> >>
> >> <property>
> >> <name>hbase.regionserver.optionalcacheflushinterval</name>
> >> <value>43200000</value>
> >> <source>hbase-default.xml</source>
> >> </property>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do I need to set this as well?
> >>
> >> <property>
> >> <name>hbase.regionserver.logroll.period</name>
> >> <value>3600000</value>
> >> <source>hbase-default.xml</source>
> >> </property>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Pere
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Bryan Beaudreault <
> bbeaudrea...@hubspot.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The default periodic flush is 1 hour. If you have a lot of regions and
> >> your
> >>> write distribution is not strictly uniform this can cause a lot of
> small
> >>> flushes, as you are seeing.  I tuned this up to 12 hours in my cluster,
> >> and
> >>> may tune it up further.  It made a big impact on the number of minor
> >>> compactions running throughout the day.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks again for your help!
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not see a single entry in my logs for memstore pressure/global
> >> heap.
> >>>> I do see tons of logs from the periodicFlusher:
> >>>> http://pastebin.com/8ZyVz8AH
> >>>>
> >>>> This seems odd to me. Today alone there are 1829 flushes from
> >>>> periodicFlusher. Is there some other log4j property I need to set?
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some logs from memstore flushes:
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:42,000 INFO
> >>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.StoreFile
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): NO General Bloom and NO DeleteFamily
> >> was
> >>>> added to HFile (hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/4bafc4f16d984b2cca905e149584df8e/.tmp/c42aacd7e6c047229bb12291510bff50
> >>>> )
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:42,000 INFO
> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.Store
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Flushed , sequenceid=67387584,
> >>>> memsize=29.5 K, into tmp file hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/4bafc4f16d984b2cca905e149584df8e/.tmp/c42aacd7e6c047229bb12291510bff50
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,683 INFO
> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.Store
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Added hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/4bafc4f16d984b2cca905e149584df8e/d/c42aacd7e6c047229bb12291510bff50
> >> ,
> >>>> entries=150, sequenceid=67387584, filesize=3.2 K
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,685 INFO
> >> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.HRegion
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Finished memstore flush of ~29.5
> >> K/30176,
> >>>> currentsize=0/0 for region
> >>>>
> >>
> weaver_events,21476b2c-7257-4787-9309-aaeab1e85392,1415157492044.4bafc4f16d984b2cca905e149584df8e.
> >>>> in 3880ms, sequenceid=67387584, compaction requested=false
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,714 INFO
> >>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.StoreFile
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Delete Family Bloom filter type for
> >>>> hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/9b4c4b73035749a9865103366c9a5a87/.tmp/f10e53628784487290f788802808777a
> >> :
> >>>> CompoundBloomFilterWriter
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,729 INFO
> >>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.StoreFile
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): NO General Bloom and NO DeleteFamily
> >> was
> >>>> added to HFile (hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/9b4c4b73035749a9865103366c9a5a87/.tmp/f10e53628784487290f788802808777a
> >>>> )
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,729 INFO
> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.Store
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Flushed , sequenceid=67387656,
> >>>> memsize=41.2 K, into tmp file hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/9b4c4b73035749a9865103366c9a5a87/.tmp/f10e53628784487290f788802808777a
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,806 INFO
> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.Store
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Added hdfs://
> >>>>
> >>
> 10.227.42.38:9000/hbase/weaver_events/9b4c4b73035749a9865103366c9a5a87/d/f10e53628784487290f788802808777a
> >> ,
> >>>> entries=210, sequenceid=67387656, filesize=4.1 K
> >>>> 2014-11-06 19:11:44,807 INFO
> >> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.regionserver.HRegion
> >>>> (regionserver60020.cacheFlusher): Finished memstore flush of ~41.2
> >> K/42232,
> >>>> currentsize=17.7 K/18080 for region
> >>>>
> >>
> weaver_events,30f6c923-8a37-4324-a404-377decd3ae06,1415154978597.9b4c4b73035749a9865103366c9a5a87.
> >>>> in 99ms, sequenceid=67387656, compaction requested=false
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> -Pere
> >>>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> bq. Do I need to restart master for the memstore to take effect?
> >>>>> No. memstore is used by region server.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like debug logging was not turned on (judging from your
> previous
> >>>>> pastebin).
> >>>>> Some of flush related logs are at INFO level. e.g. Do you see any of
> >> the
> >>>>> following log ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    LOG.info("Flush of region " + regionToFlush + " due to global heap
> >>>>> pressure");
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Take a look
> >>>>> at
> >>>>
> >>
> ./src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/hbase/regionserver/MemStoreFlusher.java
> >>>>> and you will find all the logs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> So I have set the heap to 12Gb and the memstore limit to upperLimit
> .5
> >>>>>> lowerLimit .45. I am not seeing any changes in behavior from the
> >>>> cluster so
> >>>>>> far, i have restarted 4/17 region servers. Do I need to restart
> master
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> the memstore to take effect? Also how do I enable logging to show
> why
> >> a
> >>>>>> region is being flushed? I don’t ever seen the region flushes in my
> >>>> logs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Pere
> >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> bq. to increase heap and increase the memstore limit?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes. That would be an action that bears fruit.
> >>>>>>> Long term, you should merge the small regions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Watching closely a region server in action. It seems that the
> >>>> memstores
> >>>>>>>> are being flushed at around  2MB on the regions. This would seem
> to
> >>>>>>>> indicate that there is not enough heap for the memstore and I am
> >>>> hitting
> >>>>>>>> the upper bound of limit (default). Would this be a fair
> assumption?
> >>>>>> Should
> >>>>>>>> I look to increase heap and increase the memstore limit?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>> -Pere
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You can use ConstantSizeRegionSplitPolicy.
> >>>>>>>>> Split policy can be specified per table. See the following
> example
> >>>>>>>>> in create.rb :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> hbase> create 't1', 'f1', {NUMREGIONS => 15, SPLITALGO =>
> >>>>>>>>> 'HexStringSplit'}
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In 0.94.18, there isn't online merge. So you have to use other
> >> method
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> merge the small regions.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ted,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for that information. I now see why this split
> too
> >>>>>> often,
> >>>>>>>>>> but what I am not sure of is how to fix this without blowing
> away
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> cluster. Add more heap?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Another symptom I have noticed is that load on the Master
> instance
> >>>>>> hbase
> >>>>>>>>>> daemon has been pretty high (load average 4.0, whereas it used
> to
> >> be
> >>>>>>>> 1.0)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Pere
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy is the default split
> >>>> policy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can read the javadoc of this class to see how it works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide a bit more information (such as HBase
> release) ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you pastebin one of the region servers' log, that would
> help
> >> us
> >>>>>>>>>>>> determine the cause.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Pere Kyle <p...@whisper.sh>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently our cluster which has been running fine for 2 weeks
> >>>> split
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1024 regions at 1GB per region, after this split the cluster
> is
> >>>>>>>>>> unusable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Using the performance benchmark I was getting a little better
> >>>> than
> >>>>>>>> 100
> >>>>>>>>>> w/s,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas before it was 5000 w/s. There are 15 nodes of
> >> m2.2xlarge
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> 8GB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> heap reserved for Hbase
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Ideas? I am stumped:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pere
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hbase-site.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="configuration.xsl"?>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <configuration>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <name>hbase.snapshot.enabled</name>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <value>true</value>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> </property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>fs.hdfs.impl</name><value>emr.hbase.fs.BlockableFileSystem</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.regionserver.handler.count</name><value>50</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.cluster.distributed</name><value>true</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.tmp.dir</name><value>/mnt/var/lib/hbase/tmp-data</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.master.wait.for.log.splitting</name><value>true</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.hregion.memstore.flush.size</name><value>134217728</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> <property><name>hbase.hregion.max.filesize</name><value>5073741824
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> </value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>zookeeper.session.timeout</name><value>60000</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.thrift.maxQueuedRequests</name><value>0</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.client.scanner.caching</name><value>1000</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> <property><name>hbase.hregion.memstore.block.multiplier</name><value>4</value></property>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> </configuration>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hbase-env.sh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # The maximum amount of heap to use, in MB. Default is 1000.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> export HBASE_HEAPSIZE=8000
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # Extra Java runtime options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # Below are what we set by default.  May only work with SUN
> >> JVM.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # For more on why as well as other possible settings,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> # see http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/PerformanceTuning
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> export HBASE_OPTS="-XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC”
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hbase-env.sh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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