Hi Lance:

Here is how the multiple controller leader election works:

In the case that controller x, y, z both try to control a cluster

1. x, y, z both try to create a zookeeper ephemeral node
/clusterName/CONTROLLER/LEADER

2. Only one controller creates the ephemeral node successfully then starts
controlling the cluster;

3. Other controllers fail to create the ephemeral node (it is already
created by the leader), they will register a zookeeper change listener on
the  /clusterName/CONTROLLER/LEADER ephemeral node; in case that node is
gone, they will try to create the node, and if successful will control the
cluster.

So in the two controller case, when you shut down controller A, it may take
some time for controller B to start controlling the cluster.

Can you share your test code?

Thanks,
-Shi


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Lance Co Ting Keh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I tried naming the controllers differently. I first had one controller
> running and is printing that it "isLeader()". When i brought up a second
> controller named differently, the first controller printed that it is NOT
> the leader and the new controller became the leader. Then I shut off the
> current leader (second controller) but the first controller still continued
> printing that it is NOT the leader. Somehow it leader elected once and did
> not leader elect again. The only way im generating the leader is this:
>
>       controllerManager =
> HelixControllerMain.startHelixController(zkAddress,
>         clusterName, "controller", HelixControllerMain.STANDALONE);
>
> AND
>
>       controllerManager =
> HelixControllerMain.startHelixController(zkAddress,
>         clusterName, "controller2", HelixControllerMain.STANDALONE);
>
> and im checking by saying controllerManager.isLeader() am i doing
> something wrong?
>
> Thank you
> Lance
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Lance Co Ting Keh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much for the quick response guys
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Zhen Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  yes. Using different names for the controllers is a quick workaround.
>>>
>>>   From: Lance Co Ting Keh <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:47 PM
>>>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Controller fault tolerance
>>>
>>>   Okay thank you. But for now the quick fix is to make sure to name the
>>> controllers differently?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Zhen Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  This is a known bug in helix.
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HELIX-123
>>>>
>>>>  The problem is we are comparing the instance name of the controller
>>>> but not the session id, so if you start two controllers of the same name,
>>>> isLeader() return true. We will fix it shortly.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>   From: Lance Co Ting Keh <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:39 PM
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Controller fault tolerance
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Kishore,
>>>>
>>>>  I tried starting two controllers programmatically like you mentioned:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> controllerManager = HelixControllerMain.startHelixController(zkAddress,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>           clusterName, "controller", HelixControllerMain.STANDALONE);
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I then called isLeader() on the both managers 
>>>> (http://helix.incubator.apache.org/apidocs/reference/org/apache/helix/HelixManager.html#isLeader()).
>>>>  and both of them returned true. They're obviously both on the same 
>>>> zookeeper instance, and on the same cluster. The controllers are running 
>>>> and so im not sure whether or not its actually leader electing properly, 
>>>> or I'm misinterpreting the isLeader() function
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Manikumar Reddy 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kishore,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the quick response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Kumar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:18 PM, kishore g <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kumar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You can start multiple controllers and only one of them will be
>>>>>> active and rest of them will be in standby mode. If the active controller
>>>>>> fails, one of the standby will become active and start managing the 
>>>>>> cluster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You can start the controllers either using command line or
>>>>>> programmatically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  command line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ./run-helix-controller.sh --zkSvr localhost:2199 --cluster <clustername>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  using Helix api
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> controllerManager = HelixControllerMain.startHelixController(zkAddress,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           clusterName, "controller", HelixControllerMain.STANDALONE);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kishore G
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Manikumar Reddy <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to understand the Helix Controller/Cluster manager fault
>>>>>>> tolerance mechanism.
>>>>>>> Single Controller will become Single-Point-Failure. So what are the
>>>>>>> available options/techniques to
>>>>>>> achieve controller fault tolerance?   Any pointers/recipes/code
>>>>>>> snippets?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Kumar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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