And now I have to apologize. I was one version late for hive (0.8.1). And the version 0.9 does include HWI with bootstrap. The jira must be misleading or I don't understand what the issue is about...
Bertrand https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-2910 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Bertrand Dechoux <decho...@gmail.com>wrote: > Great answer. Thanks a lot. > > 1) I understand the concern with branches but I quickly reviewed the > change for 0.9.1 and not everything seemed to be a bug patch. > So I thought : why not ask about HIVE-2910. > > 2) I wasn't sure about that, it seems logical though. That's a great news. > I will definitely try using the upgraded war. And that indeed would solve > my problem. > > 3) The demography of users have changed, maybe not the persons themselves. > Right now I prefer the CLI but I can't allow everybody to do the same. > > 4) The priority depends on the users. I understand your point, however my > concern now is to allow multiple users to 'poke' huge files easily. With > that point of view, HWI is critical. > > Thanks again for the well constructed feedback. > > Bertrand > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Generally we only apply patches to trunk. Thus maintaining branches >> becomes to much trouble for us. You have to remember that most hive >> major versions have no actual major changes. Most everything is hidden >> behind a query language. The only changes that have to be done >> carefully are changes to the metastore that add things like views or >> security. >> >> As for HIVE-2910, again this change made no changes to any core code. >> HWI tries hard not to touch internals. As result I am almost 100% >> positive you can replace hive-hwi-0.9.0.war with hive-hwi-0.10.0.war >> in your hive lib directory, so you really do not need to wait for a >> release just to get the new HWI. >> >> As for improving HWI, hwi is a funny story. The open source hive had >> no web interface, at the time the type of users that were into hive >> and hadoop (since it was so new) where hardcore coders and distributed >> systems experts. Those types do not typically use web interfaces. Fast >> forward to now and EVERYONE and their grandmother uses hadoop and >> suddenly web interfaces are actually an important selling point! >> >> (I wrote hwi btw) In hive I have moved onto writing UDFs, >> StorageHandlers, InputFormats, and doing patch reviews. The web >> interface is low hanging fruit. If anyone wants to add a feature to >> HWI (like the bootstrap one or others), open a jira and I will >> promptly review and commit. Much like the features in the CLI >> (autocomplete and .hiverc) they did not get better magically, but they >> are again easy low hanging fruit that almost any coded can take care >> of. >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Dechoux <decho...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Here is my stand. Hive provides a dsl to easily explore data contained >> in >> > hadoop with limited experience with java and MapReduce. >> > And Hive Web Interface provides an easy exposition : users need only a >> > browser and the hadoop cluster can be well 'fire-walled' because the >> > communication is only through http. >> > >> > I saw the work of HIVE-2910. Of course, it could still be improved. But >> it >> > was needed and it is a great first step. I don't see it as a minor >> > improvement. That is a great way for promoting the HWI. >> > As such, I think it is a shame the patch was only applied for the 0.10 >> > version and not for the 0.9.1. Is there any reason for that? Is there >> any >> > change that it could be added to the 0.9.0? Do you have any estimate >> for the >> > release date of the 0.9.1 version? >> > >> > Of course, there is at least an alternative : Beeswax within Hue but >> CDH is >> > a big dependency that can not just be added because the end user >> requires a >> > decent interface. >> > >> > Thanks in advance for all feedback >> > >> > Bertrand >> > > > > -- > Bertrand Dechoux > -- Bertrand Dechoux
