great policy. install open source software that's not even version 1.0 into
production and then not allow the ability to improve it (but of course reap
all the rewards of its benefits.)  so instead of actually fixing the
problem the right way introduce a super-hack work-around cuz, you know,
that's much more "stable."

Gotta luv it.   Good luck.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Shushant Arora <shushantaror...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Alan
>
> I have 0.10 version of hive deployed in my org's cluster, I cannot update
> that because of org's policy.
> How can I achieve exclusive lock functionality while inserting in dynamic
> partition on hive 0.10 ?
> Does calling hive scripts via some sort of java api with patched jar
> included will help ?
> Moreover hive does not release locks in 0.10 when hive session is killed .
> User has to explicitly unlock a table.
> Can i specify any sort of max expiry time while taking a lock.
>
> Thanks
> Shushant
>
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Up until Hive 0.13 locks in Hive were really advisory only, since as you
>> note any user can remove any other user's lock.  In Hive 0.13 a new type of
>> locking was introduced, see
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Hive+Transactions#HiveTransactions-LockManager
>> This new locking is automatic and ignores both LOCK and UNLOCK commands.
>> Note that it is off by default, you have to configure Hive to use the new
>> DbTxnManager to get turn on this locking.  In 0.13 it still has the bug you
>> describe as far as acquiring the wrong lock for dynamic partitioning, but I
>> believe I've fixed that in 0.14.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>   Shushant Arora <shushantaror...@gmail.com>
>>  September 20, 2014 at 5:39
>>
>> Hive version 0.9 and later has a bug
>>
>>
>>
>> While inserting in a hive table Hive takes an exclusive lock. But if
>> table is partitioned , and insert is in dynamic partition , it will take
>> shared lock on table but if all partitions are static then hive takes
>> exclusive lock on partitions in which data is being inserted
>>
>> and shared lock on table.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-3509
>>
>>
>> 1.What if I want to take exclusive lock on table while inserting in
>> dynamic partition ?
>>
>>
>> I tried to take explicit lock using :
>>
>> LOCK TABLE tablename EXCLUSIVE;
>>
>>
>> But it made table to be disabled.
>>
>> I cannot even read from table anymore even is same session until I do
>>
>> unlock table tablename in another session;
>>
>>
>> 2. moreover whats lock level in hive , I mean any user can remove any
>> other users lock. that too seems buggy.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Shushant
>>
>>
>>
>>
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