Thanks Jean-Francois for your quick response.  

Yes I saw HiveTranse but it looks to be meager compared to what you get from
Spring -- no offense intended, I'm just spoiled by the feature set and first
class documentation of the Spring Framework plus the many articles, blog
posts, etc. available from third parties about how to use Spring/Hibernate. 
The HiveTranse project pages I've seen have no similar documentation
available other than the brief quick start page so my assumption was that it
is not as feature rich or robust as the ORM support provided by Spring.  I
thought that there was maybe something else available from HiveMind itself
but it appears that unlike Spring HiveMind is more focused on IoC and is not
a full featured application framework per se and hence lacks built in
support for ORM tools.  I'm working on a project which uses HiveMind and now
that we have to add persistence with Hibernate I was hoping to get the same
sort of support for Hibernate that I came to expect from Spring.  I really
like the IoC/wiring approach offered by HiveMind, but I've always used
Hibernate in conjunction with Spring and it looks like with HiveMind I will
have to either use vanilla Hibernate (maybe that's not as bad as I'm
thinking and I should learn to live without the Spring crutches) or go with
HiveMind ORM utilities like HiveTranse which appear to be much less mature
than what I'm used to with Spring.

I will give HiveTranse a whirl and see how it goes, maybe it'll be fine for
my needs.

--James



Jean-Francois Poilpret-2 wrote:
> 
> Hello James,
> 
> Although the HiveMind project by itself does not provide tools/libraries
> for
> ORM support (as compared with Spring), there are a few open source
> projects
> down there that aim to fill in this gap.
> 
> One of them is HiveMind Utilities (http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net).
> There are at least 2 others, the one from James, and one from Marcus
> Schulte
> which is not "purely" HiveMind, but more Tapestry-oriented (but that's
> still
> HiveMind). There may be others, a quick google search should help you find
> these.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jean-Francois
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Hibernate with HiveMind -- examples, tutorials, etc.?
> 
> 
> I have found no documentation which shows how to use Hibernate with
> HiveMind. 
> Have I missed a tutorial or getting started page somewhere which will help
> me get started?  Am I correct in my conclusion that HiveMind support for
> ORM
> tools (such as Hibernate) is magnitudes less than what is available from
> Spring?
> 
> Can someone point me to the excellent example by James Carman referenced 
> http://www.nabble.com/Hivemind-creates-proxy-Hibernate-Session-t3528361.html
> here ?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> --James
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