Vladimir,

That’s an oversight and lack of explanation on our side. The goal is to avoid 
unexpected deadlocks when a user passed a HashMap in cache.putAll. Before 
printing out a warning we can filter out OPTIMISTIC/SERIALIZABLE and other 
suitable scenarios.

So you’re free to offer another solution aside from closing the ticket :) 

—
Denis

 
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Printing a warning in this case is really strange idea. First, how would 
> explain it in case of OPTIMISTIC/SERIALIZABLE transactions where deadlocks 
> are impossible? Second, what would you do in case tow sorted maps are passed 
> one by one in a transaction? User still may have a deadlock. :Last, we are 
> going towards SQL world, where "maps" simply do not exist, and virtually any 
> update could eailty lead to a deadlock. 
> 
> Let's avoid strange warnings for normal usage scenario. Denis, please close 
> the ticket :-)))
> 
> Vladimir.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org 
> <mailto:dma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> Here is a ticket for the improvement:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-6804 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-6804>
> 
> —
> Denis
> 
> > On Oct 31, 2017, at 3:55 AM, Dmitry Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:dpavlov....@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Denis, if we don't have such warning we should continiously 
> > warn users in wiki pages/blogs/presentations. It is simpler to warn from 
> > code.
> >
> > What do you think if we will issue warning only if size > 1. HashMap with 1 
> > item will not cause deadlock. Moreover where can be some custom singleton 
> > Map provided by user.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > вт, 31 окт. 2017 г. в 7:18, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org 
> > <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org> <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org 
> > <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org>>>:
> > Denis,
> >
> > We should definitely print out a thorough warning if HashMap is passed into
> > a bulk method (instead of SortedMap). However, we should make sure that we
> > only print that warning once and not ever time the API is called.
> >
> > Can you please file a ticket for 2.4?
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org 
> > <mailto:dma...@apache.org> <mailto:dma...@apache.org 
> > <mailto:dma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > > + dev list
> > >
> > > Igniters, that’s a relevant point below. Newcomers to Ignite tend to
> > > stumble on deadlocks simply because the keys are passed in an unordered
> > > HashMap. Propose to do the following:
> > > - update bulk operations Java doc.
> > > - print out a warning if a HashMap is used and its exceeds one element.
> >
> >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > —
> > > Denis
> > >
> > > > On Oct 21, 2017, at 6:16 PM, dark <ekdxhrl0...@gmail.com 
> > > > <mailto:ekdxhrl0...@gmail.com> <mailto:ekdxhrl0...@gmail.com 
> > > > <mailto:ekdxhrl0...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Many people seem to be more likely to send Cache entries in bulk via a
> > > > HashMap.
> > > > How do you expose a warning statement by checking if the TreeMap is
> > > putAll
> > > > inside the code?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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