John,

This page covers all the aspects of backups in Ignite (what are those, how
to configure, etc.):
https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/configuring-backups

As for the 5 nodes cluster with the persistence, yes, all those have to be
added to be in the same baseline topology.

-
Denis


On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM John Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok if I have 5 nodes with persistence then all nodes need to be in
> baseline?
>
> Also what are the docs for backup to make sure I have it right?
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 10:08, Ilya Kasnacheev <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> You are confusing baseline with backups here.
>>
>> You should have 1 backup to afford losing a node.
>>
>> You should have all data nodes in the baseline.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>>
>>
>> ср, 5 авг. 2020 г. в 17:56, John Smith <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> I mean I have 3 nodes and the baseline is set to 3. Does it mean if I
>>> put 2 as baseline then I can lose at least 1? If I remove one node from
>>> baseline does it mean it will not store data?
>>>
>>> Or is it better to have 3 baseline nodes and add a 4th node? In that
>>> case if I still lose a baseline node will I still be able to do
>>> operations on the cache?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 08:21, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have 3 nodes and baseline topology is 3 so if I lose 1 I guess it's
>>>> enough... Should it be 2?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue., Aug. 4, 2020, 10:57 a.m. Ilya Kasnacheev, <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> What is your baseline topology at this moment? It means just that: you
>>>>> have lost enough nodes of your distributed grid that data is nowhere to be
>>>>> found now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> пн, 3 авг. 2020 г. в 19:12, John Smith <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the below exception on my client...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 I rebooted the cache nodes error still continued.
>>>>>> #2 restarted the client node error went away.
>>>>>> #3 this seems to happen every few weeks.
>>>>>> #4 is there some sort of timeout values and retries I can put?
>>>>>> #5 cache operations seem to block when rebooting the nodes (I have 3
>>>>>> nodes). Is there a way not to block?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> javax.cache.CacheException: class
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.CacheInvalidStateException:
>>>>>> Failed to execute cache operation (all partition owners have left the 
>>>>>> grid,
>>>>>> partition data has been lost) [cacheName=xxxxxx, part=273, 
>>>>>> key=16479796986]
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.GridCacheUtils.convertToCacheException(GridCacheUtils.java:1337)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.IgniteCacheFutureImpl.convertException(IgniteCacheFutureImpl.java:62)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.util.future.IgniteFutureImpl.get(IgniteFutureImpl.java:157)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.data.impl.IgniteCacheRepository.lambda$executeAsync$394d953f$1(IgniteCacheRepository.java:59)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.util.future.AsyncFutureListener$1.run(AsyncFutureListener.java:53)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.data.impl.VertxIgniteExecutorAdapter.lambda$execute$0(VertxIgniteExecutorAdapter.java:18)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.core.impl.ContextImpl.executeTask(ContextImpl.java:369)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.impl.EventLoopContext.lambda$executeAsync$0(EventLoopContext.java:38)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.safeExecute(AbstractEventExecutor.java:164)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:472)
>>>>>> at io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.run(NioEventLoop.java:497)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:989)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.util.concurrent.FastThreadLocalRunnable.run(FastThreadLocalRunnable.java:30)
>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)
>>>>>> Caused by:
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.CacheInvalidStateException:
>>>>>> Failed to execute cache operation (all partition owners have left the 
>>>>>> grid,
>>>>>> partition data has been lost) [cacheName=xxxxxx, part=273, 
>>>>>> key=16479796986]
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridDhtTopologyFutureAdapter.validatePartitionOperation(GridDhtTopologyFutureAdapter.java:161)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridDhtTopologyFutureAdapter.validateCache(GridDhtTopologyFutureAdapter.java:116)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridNearAtomicSingleUpdateFuture.mapOnTopology(GridNearAtomicSingleUpdateFuture.java:417)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridNearAtomicAbstractUpdateFuture.map(GridNearAtomicAbstractUpdateFuture.java:248)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridDhtAtomicCache$26.apply(GridDhtAtomicCache.java:1146)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridDhtAtomicCache$26.apply(GridDhtAtomicCache.java:1144)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridDhtAtomicCache.asyncOp(GridDhtAtomicCache.java:761)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridDhtAtomicCache.update0(GridDhtAtomicCache.java:1144)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.atomic.GridDhtAtomicCache.putAsync0(GridDhtAtomicCache.java:641)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.GridCacheAdapter.putAsync(GridCacheAdapter.java:2828)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.GridCacheAdapter.putAsync(GridCacheAdapter.java:2809)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.IgniteCacheProxyImpl.putAsync0(IgniteCacheProxyImpl.java:1125)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.IgniteCacheProxyImpl.putAsync(IgniteCacheProxyImpl.java:1114)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.GatewayProtectedCacheProxy.putAsync(GatewayProtectedCacheProxy.java:832)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.data.impl.IgniteCacheRepository.lambda$put$0(IgniteCacheRepository.java:27)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.data.impl.IgniteCacheRepository.executeAsync(IgniteCacheRepository.java:55)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.data.impl.IgniteCacheRepository.put(IgniteCacheRepository.java:27)
>>>>>> at com.xxxxxx.service.impl.xxxxxx.put(xxxxxx.java:52)
>>>>>> at com.xxxxxx.impl.xxxxxx.moV1(xxxxxx.java:134)
>>>>>> at com.xxxxxx.api.xxxxxx.moV1(xxxxxx.java:100)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouteState.handleContext(RouteState.java:1034)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImplBase.iterateNext(RoutingContextImplBase.java:131)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImpl.next(RoutingContextImpl.java:128)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.JsonLoggerHandlerImpl.handle(JsonLoggerHandlerImpl.java:168)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.JsonLoggerHandlerImpl.handle(JsonLoggerHandlerImpl.java:24)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouteState.handleContext(RouteState.java:1034)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImplBase.iterateNext(RoutingContextImplBase.java:95)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImpl.next(RoutingContextImpl.java:128)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.OutputTrxInfoOnErrorHandlerImpl.handle(OutputTrxInfoOnErrorHandlerImpl.java:18)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.OutputTrxInfoOnErrorHandlerImpl.handle(OutputTrxInfoOnErrorHandlerImpl.java:10)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouteState.handleContext(RouteState.java:1034)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImplBase.iterateNext(RoutingContextImplBase.java:95)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImpl.next(RoutingContextImpl.java:128)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.TransactionDateTimeHandlerImpl.handle(TransactionDateTimeHandlerImpl.java:19)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> com.xxxxxx.common.vertx.ext.web.handler.impl.TransactionDateTimeHandlerImpl.handle(TransactionDateTimeHandlerImpl.java:11)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouteState.handleContext(RouteState.java:1034)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImplBase.iterateNext(RoutingContextImplBase.java:131)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RoutingContextImpl.next(RoutingContextImpl.java:128)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouterImpl.handle(RouterImpl.java:54)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.ext.web.impl.RouterImpl.handle(RouterImpl.java:36)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.ext.web.Router.accept(Router.java:64)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.http.impl.WebSocketRequestHandler.handle(WebSocketRequestHandler.java:50)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.http.impl.WebSocketRequestHandler.handle(WebSocketRequestHandler.java:32)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.http.impl.Http1xServerConnection.handleMessage(Http1xServerConnection.java:136)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.core.impl.ContextImpl.executeTask(ContextImpl.java:369)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.impl.EventLoopContext.execute(EventLoopContext.java:43)
>>>>>> at io.vertx.core.impl.ContextImpl.executeFromIO(ContextImpl.java:232)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.vertx.core.net.impl.VertxHandler.channelRead(VertxHandler.java:173)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:379)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:365)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.fireChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:357)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.ChannelInboundHandlerAdapter.channelRead(ChannelInboundHandlerAdapter.java:93)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.handler.codec.http.websocketx.extensions.WebSocketServerExtensionHandler.channelRead(WebSocketServerExtensionHandler.java:101)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:379)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:365)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.fireChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:357)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.handler.codec.ByteToMessageDecoder.fireChannelRead(ByteToMessageDecoder.java:321)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.handler.codec.ByteToMessageDecoder.channelRead(ByteToMessageDecoder.java:295)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:379)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:365)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.fireChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:357)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline$HeadContext.channelRead(DefaultChannelPipeline.java:1410)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:379)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:365)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline.fireChannelRead(DefaultChannelPipeline.java:919)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.nio.AbstractNioByteChannel$NioByteUnsafe.read(AbstractNioByteChannel.java:163)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.processSelectedKey(NioEventLoop.java:714)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.processSelectedKeysOptimized(NioEventLoop.java:650)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.processSelectedKeys(NioEventLoop.java:576)
>>>>>> at io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.run(NioEventLoop.java:493)
>>>>>> ... 4 common frames omitted
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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