Please raise JIRA issue for the synonyms.
On 12 Feb 2013, at 23:44, Iulian Greculescu <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Mauro, > > I am so happy to be a subscriber of this form as I always learn something new > each day! > I was not aware that you can do this: > > Given I have a first line > followed by a second one > both part of the same step > > @Given("I have a first line\nfollowed by a second one\nboth part of the same > step") > > That is great news and I will start using as I am writing this. A pity > intelij plugin does not like it but I can live with this or try it in eclipse. > > However from the purpose I described earlier, being able to add those 'And' > synonyms would still be a good to have thing. Without that even if you now > can achieve natural sounding stories with multi line steps you will still > have to implement those steps with too many arguments. The synonyms would > help us have a better separations of steps. > > Cheers, > Julian > > --- On Wed, 13/2/13, Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword > To: [email protected] > Received: Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, 2:14 AM > > That's not possible as JBehave parsing is not done not by line but by > keyword. This allows for multiple-line steps. > > The And keyword identifies a new step of the same time of the preceding, > which may or may not be over multiple lines. > > On 11/02/2013 22:13, Iulian Greculescu wrote: >> About point 2. >> Actually we don’t even need to define “And” synonyms and we just adopt the >> convention that if a step has none of the “Given/When/Then/And” keywords in >> front then by default is should be considered an “And”. I don’t think this >> would be hard to implement and in my opinion would make our stories really >> sound natural. >> >> Cheers, >> Julian >> >> --- On Tue, 12/2/13, Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword >> To: [email protected] >> Received: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013, 1:54 AM >> >> >> 1. Yes, I agree - GivenStory syntax is often preferable to be a declarative >> precondition rather than setup/teardown paradigm which is more akin to unit >> testing. >> 2. The synonyms of 'And' are definitely easier to implement because they map >> to pre-defined types. >> >> Please raise a JIRA issue for it. >> >> >> On 11/02/2013 11:05, Iulian Greculescu wrote: >>> @Handa, >>> >>> If I understand well the sub scenario need this can be achieved by >>> including that sub scenario part of a standalone story and then making your >>> each scenario that has your sub scenario a prerequest running with a >>> GivenStories pointing to that common story. >>> >>> We applied this lots of time when exercising a banking system. >>> Say you have the user login story your common thing and then you have: a >>> BPay payment, a Bank Transfer, an International Payment, etc. All these >>> scenarios would gave a GivenStories UserLoginStory, etc >>> >>> @Mauro >>> The user defined keyword attracted my attention quite a lot. I accept that >>> you can describe a business case just using Given/When/Then/And suite. >>> However when the scenario you need to write is a long one (say 30 or more >>> steps) I have to accept that the story starts sounding a bit to fade (say >>> made up). It works but....:) >>> When this post came I was just about to come up with an idea/proposal to >>> bring some spice in our stories and make them sounds more natural. What >>> about including the flexibility of defining "And" synonyms with exactly the >>> same functionality as the actual "And"? >>> >>> So you can say something like this: >>> Given our Payments system supports SWIFT messages >>> When a FX transaction message arrives >>> And the "from" currency is USD >>> And the "to" currency is GBP >>> And the exchange rate is 0.71002 >>> And the transaction date is the next business day >>> And the transaction amount is $200.00 >>> And the payer account no is 1234567890 >>> .... >>> And 30 others "when" steps describing the Foreigner Exchange message >>> Then..... >>> >>> >>> Someone would say (me included) that if I can say "With' and "Having" are >>> synonyms of "And" and rewrite the story like below then it would sound more >>> natural. >>> >>> Given our Payments system supports SWIFT messages >>> When a FX transaction message arrives >>> Having the "from" currency as USD >>> And the "to" currency as GBP >>> With an exchange rate is 0.71002 >>> ...... >>> >>> What do u think? I was thinking to research a bit how difficult that would >>> be. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> --- On Mon, 11/2/13, Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> From: Mauro Talevi <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword >>> To: [email protected] >>> Received: Monday, 11 February, 2013, 2:36 AM >>> >>> >>> You can request new features on JIRA: http://jbehave.org/issue-tracking.html >>> >>> That said, your features require substantial changes and are more likely to >>> be considered for the 4.x releases. >>> >>> On 10/02/2013 15:13, Handa, Ramneek wrote: >>>> I would love to have ability to write a sub scenario which is a part of >>>> many scenarios so as to avoid repetition. >>>> @Before/@AfterScenario/... – as a coder of my tool I wouldn’t know what >>>> the story writer would like to do at teardown and setup. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately these two are very basic >>>> needs for me to use JBehave. Is it not done because its complex >>>> given how JBehave is implemented or has it never been the priority? >>>> >>>> I can write my requirement and file an issue if you think this can be >>>> supported soon? >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> From: Mauro Talevi [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:39 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword >>>> >>>> You can define "composite steps" from other defined steps: >>>> http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/composite-steps.html >>>> >>>> User-defined keywords are not supported, the only keywords allowed in the >>>> scenario steps are "Given/When/Then/And" but the rest of the step language >>>> is entire up to you to define. You can also change the existing ones, ie >>>> use different values for them, via i18n support. The idea being that >>>> Given/When/Then represent >>>> generic step types (precondition/event/result) and you should be able to >>>> fit comfortably into these types by appropriate use of the step language >>>> that follows. >>>> >>>> There is no setup/teardown in the story syntax, i.e. something executed >>>> before and after *each* >>>> scenario or story. There is however : >>>> >>>> - GivenStories ... i.e. one or more stories executed on demand (i.e. on >>>> explicit invocation) before scenarios or stories. >>>> - @Before/@AfterScenario/Story/Stories ... i.e. annotated steps in code >>>> that are executed before each scenario/story/group of stories >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/02/2013 13:59, Handa, Ramneek wrote: >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> Is it possible for the story writer to create new higher level steps >>>> (which consists of multiple >>>> steps)? I am moving from robot framework and it has this feature of user >>>> defined keywords that i couldn’t find in jbehave website. Could someone >>>> please point me in the right direction? >>>> >>>> Also, i would like to know if there is a way for story writer to write >>>> setup/teardown in gherkin? >>>> Regards, >>>> Ramneek >>>> >>>> >>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be >>>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all >>>> copies and notify the sender immediately. You may wish to refer to the >>>> incorporation details of Standard Chartered PLC, Standard Chartered Bank >>>> and their subsidiaries at >>>> http://www.standardchartered.com/en/incorporation-details.html. >>>> >>>> >>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be >>>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all >>>> copies and notify the sender immediately. You may wish to refer to the >>>> incorporation details of Standard >>>> Chartered PLC, Standard Chartered Bank and their subsidiaries at >>>> http://www.standardchartered.com/en/incorporation-details.html. >>> >> >
