Thank you for your answer.

By the way, I didn't want to compare JUnit and JBehave but intended to
compare JUnit + Page Objects on one side with JBehave + Steps on the other
side.

I think I won't use page objects since JBehave has steps. There is no need
to write tests with JUnit side by side with JBehave. And I don't intend to
be more independent of JBehave by having a page object layer.

Then I will see later if I really don't need page objects (but now I really
think so).


2013/9/16 Mauro Talevi <[email protected]>

> Hi Hans,
>
> the short answer is no, you don't need to use page objects if you don't
> feel the need for them.
>
> Page objects are a design paradigm that enable you to encapsulate the
> access to the business functionality exposed by the given web page and make
> it easier to maintain it, while possibly changing the underlying
> interaction, which can be at times rather complicated (web-speak and all).
>
> The re-usability and readability criteria that you mention apply equally
> to JBehave and BDD as they do the JUnit and unit testing. Even more so, I
> would argue.   E.g. they can be re-used across multiple steps classes.
>
> It is true though that page objects introduce another layer between steps
> and testing API, and it's up to you to decide if they are an advantage or a
> hindrance.    You can also introduce them when they are needed and start
> off without them.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 16/09/2013 15:45, Hans Schwäbli wrote:
>
>> I started to write JBehave stories and steps and also page objects. Some
>> examples of JBehave contain page objects, so I thought this is a good idea.
>> But now I ask myself what advantage there is if I write page objects? The
>> steps which I write are re-usable and I can structure them in a similiar
>> way like page objects (per page for instance).
>> Even today some people use JUnit for running GUI tests. I understand that
>> you need page objects with JUnit, because of re-usability and readability.
>> But JBehave has its steps which are re-usable and readable, so why should
>> I write page objects addionally? I see no advantage but more effort.
>> Did I overlook something? What would the disadvantage be of not using
>> page objects with JBehave?
>>
>
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