Hi 

According to the resolver output, it seems you install a new jetty version, 
causing refresh of jetty.security, cascading refresh of CXF and your bundles.

The start level doesn’t matter here: whatever the start level is, you will have 
the refresh happening.

The refresh can be caused:

1. By an optional import
2. By a "bad" import range

I will check pax-jdbc-sqlite feature and bundles to see the optional import and 
the range.

Anyway, just to let you know that I’ve worked on a new features service to 
avoid this case (automatic cascading refresh) and Karaf5 extension (alternative 
to features) will not cause this kind of refresh.

Regards
JB

> Le 6 janv. 2021 à 06:37, Andre Schlegel-Tylla 
> <andre.schlegel-ty...@virtimo.de> a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> we have noticed when switching from Karaf 4.0.10 to 4.2.8 that when 
> installing PAX JDBC features, significantly more bundles are restarted. This 
> causes problems for us because our bundles are also restarted and then an 
> error occurs because the CXF is not yet available.
> 
> 1) Why are now significantly more bundles restarted?
> 2) Shouldn't the start level of the bundles prevent the problem at that point?
> 3) Do we need to specify the dependency on CXF differently?
> 
> Here for comparison:
> 
> Karaf 4.0.10
> virtimo@bpc()> feature:install -v pax-jdbc-sqlite
> Adding features: pax-jdbc-sqlite/[1.0.1,1.0.1]
> Changes to perform:
>   Region: root
>     Bundles to install:
>       mvn:org.ops4j.pax.jdbc/pax-jdbc-sqlite/1.0.1
>       mvn:org.xerial/sqlite-jdbc/3.16.1
> Installing bundles:
>   mvn:org.ops4j.pax.jdbc/pax-jdbc-sqlite/1.0.1
>   mvn:org.xerial/sqlite-jdbc/3.16.1
> Starting bundles:
>   org.xerial.sqlite-jdbc/3.16.1
>   org.ops4j.pax.jdbc.sqlite/1.0.1
> Done.
> 
> Karaf 4.2.8
> 
> virtimo@bpc()> feature:install -v pax-jdbc-sqlite
> Adding features: pax-jdbc-sqlite/[1.4.4,1.4.4]
> Changes to perform:
>   Region: root
>     Bundles to install:
>       mvn:org.ops4j.pax.jdbc/pax-jdbc-sqlite/1.4.4
>       mvn:org.xerial/sqlite-jdbc/3.28.0
> Stopping bundles:
>   de.virtimo.bpc-be-analysis/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>   de.virtimo.bpc-be-core/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>   org.apache.cxf.karaf.cxf-karaf-commands/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-wsdl/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-security/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-rm/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-policy/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-mex/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-addr/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-udp/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-local/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jms/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security-saml/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-service-description/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-json-basic/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-search/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-providers/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-client/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-management/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-javascript/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-simple/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-js/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxws/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxrs/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-throttling/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-metrics/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-logging/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-clustering/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-jaxb/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-aegis/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-xml/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-soap/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-corba/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-coloc/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http/3.3.5
>   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-jetty/7.2.14
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.client/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.webapp/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.servlets/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.servlet/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.security.jaspi/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.rewrite/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.proxy/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.plus/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.jndi/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.jaas/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.deploy/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-stax/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-policy-stax/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-dom/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4
>   org.apache.servicemix.bundles.opensaml/3.3.0.2 <http://3.3.0.2/>
> Installing bundles:
>   mvn:org.ops4j.pax.jdbc/pax-jdbc-sqlite/1.4.4
>   mvn:org.xerial/sqlite-jdbc/3.28.0
> Refreshing bundles:
>     de.virtimo.bpc-be-analysis/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT (Wired to 
> de.virtimo.bpc-be-core/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT which is being refreshed)
>     de.virtimo.bpc-be-core/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.client/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-coloc/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-corba/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-soap/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-xml/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-aegis/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-jaxb/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-clustering/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-logging/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-metrics/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-throttling/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxrs/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxws/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-js/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-simple/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-javascript/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-management/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-client/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-providers/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-aegis/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-search/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-json-basic/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-service-description/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security-saml/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty/3.3.5 (Should be wired to: 
> org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.22.v20191022 (through 
> [org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty/3.3.5] osgi.wiring.package; 
> filter:="(&(osgi.wiring.package=org.eclipse.jetty.http)(version>=9.2.0)(!(version>=10.0.0)))"))
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jms/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-local/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-udp/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-addr/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-mex/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-policy/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-rm/3.3.5 (Wired to org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 
> which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-security/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-wsdl/3.3.5 (Wired to org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 
> which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.cxf.karaf.cxf-karaf-commands/3.3.5 (Wired to 
> org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.servicemix.bundles.opensaml/3.3.0.2 <http://3.3.0.2/> (Wired 
> to de.virtimo.bpc-be-core/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4 (Wired to 
> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.opensaml/3.3.0.2 <http://3.3.0.2/> which is 
> being refreshed)
>     org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-dom/2.2.4 (Wired to 
> org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-policy-stax/2.2.4 (Wired to 
> org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4 which is being refreshed)
>     org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-stax/2.2.4 (Wired to 
> org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022 (Should be wired to: 
> org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.22.v20191022 (through 
> [org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022] osgi.wiring.package; 
> filter:="(&(osgi.wiring.package=org.eclipse.jetty.http)(version>=9.4.22)(!(version>=10.0.0)))"))
>     org.eclipse.jetty.deploy/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.jaas/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.jndi/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.plus/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.jndi/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.proxy/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.rewrite/9.4.22.v20191022 (Should be wired to: 
> org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.22.v20191022 (through 
> [org.eclipse.jetty.rewrite/9.4.22.v20191022] osgi.wiring.package; 
> filter:="(&(osgi.wiring.package=org.eclipse.jetty.http)(version>=9.4.22)(!(version>=10.0.0)))"))
>     org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 (Should be wired to: 
> org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.22.v20191022 (through 
> [org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022] osgi.wiring.package; 
> filter:="(&(osgi.wiring.package=org.eclipse.jetty.http)(version>=9.4.22)(!(version>=10.0.0)))"))
>     org.eclipse.jetty.security.jaspi/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022 (Should be wired to: 
> org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.22.v20191022 (through 
> [org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022] osgi.wiring.package; 
> filter:="(&(osgi.wiring.package=org.eclipse.jetty.http)(version>=9.4.22)(!(version>=10.0.0)))"))
>     org.eclipse.jetty.servlet/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.servlets/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.webapp/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.client/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022 
> (Wired to org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
>     org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-jetty/7.2.14 (Wired to 
> org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022 which is being refreshed)
> Starting bundles:
>   org.apache.servicemix.bundles.opensaml/3.3.0.2 <http://3.3.0.2/>
>   org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.jndi/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.client/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.proxy/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.servlet/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.webapp/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.deploy/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.jaas/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.websocket.javax.websocket.server/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.rewrite/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.plus/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.security.jaspi/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.eclipse.jetty.servlets/9.4.22.v20191022
>   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-jetty/7.2.14
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-common/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-stax/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-policy-stax/2.2.4
>   org.apache.wss4j.wss4j-ws-security-dom/2.2.4
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-wsdl/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-soap/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-jaxb/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-simple/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-xml/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-policy/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxws/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-mex/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-jaxrs/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-metrics/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-management/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-addr/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-rm/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-databinding-aegis/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-http-jetty/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jms/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-coloc/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-security-saml/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-search/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-local/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-ws-security/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-json-basic/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-extension-providers/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-clustering/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-corba/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-logging/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-features-throttling/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-javascript/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.karaf.cxf-karaf-commands/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-frontend-js/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-service-description/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-udp/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-core/3.3.5
>   org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-rs-client/3.3.5
>   org.xerial.sqlite-jdbc/3.28.0
>   org.ops4j.pax.jdbc.sqlite/1.4.4
>   de.virtimo.bpc-be-core/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT
>   de.virtimo.bpc-be-analysis/4.0.0.SNAPSHOT
> Done.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Andre

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