Hi Maurice,

It's highly possible that the problem is related to Windows platform,
updating the path.

I have to find a Windows to test it :)

Regards
JB

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 12:13 PM Maurice Betzel <m.bet...@gaston-schul.com>
wrote:

> Hi JB,
>
>
>
> I extracted the zip from the build, renamed the folder and deleted the
> data folder (which had nothing in it except the readme).
>
> The result is the same, the shell displays:
>
>
>
> platform.bat: KARAF_LOG doesn't exist:
> "C:\Users\User\Downloads\runtime5\bin\..\data\log"
>
> platform.bat: Creating "C:\Users\user\Downloads\runtime5\bin\..\data\log"
>
> Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8
>
>
>
> But no ascii art, logging as mentioned below. If I stop and restart all is
> working as it should.
>
>
>
> *Van:* Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 21 maart 2023 11:03
> *Aan:* user@karaf.apache.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: Custom Karaf hangs on first boot if containing folder is
> renamed
>
>
>
> * CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of Gaston Schul. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
> the content is safe.
>
>
>
> Did you try to remove the data folder ?
>
>
>
> Not only Karaf is using caching, Felix FileInstall/ConfigAdmin does too.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> JB
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:42 PM Maurice Betzel <m.bet...@gaston-schul.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear community,
>
>
>
> Having built several custom Karaf distributions the past 10 years, we now
> face a strange behavior not seen before.
>
> Environment is Windows 11 64bit, base Karaf version 4.4.3 with upgraded
> pax-web 8.0.17 component.
>
> If I extract the runtime ZIP after build and start it from the default
> containing folder, all works well. But if I rename the folder before first
> start, Karaf hangs on disabling logging, see below.
>
> If I start and stop Karaf from its original folder and then rename this
> folder, all is well.
>
> Seems that Karaf home gets cached somewhere? I cannot find it so I am
> hoping this behavior has been noticed before?
>
>
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,405 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 | Starting bundles:
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,407 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.util/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,408 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.jmx/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,409 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.io/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,410 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.http/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,411 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   jakarta.servlet-api/4.0.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,411 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-api/8.0.17
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,412 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-spi/8.0.17
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,413 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.server/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,413 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.security/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,414 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.util.ajax/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,415 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.servlet/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,415 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.xml/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,416 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.jaas/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,417 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.servlets/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,418 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-jetty/8.0.17
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,419 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.continuation/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,420 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-tomcat-common/8.0.17
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,421 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-runtime/8.0.17
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,421 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.eclipse.jetty.client/9.4.50.v20221201
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,422 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.karaf.http.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,423 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.jolokia.osgi/1.7.1
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:48,424 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 | Done.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 | Changes to perform:
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   Region: root
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |     Bundles to install:
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.bouncycastle/bcpkix-jdk18on/1.72
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.bouncycastle/bcprov-jdk18on/1.72
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.bouncycastle/bcutil-jdk18on/1.72
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-annotations/2.14.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-core/2.14.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,330 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-databind/2.14.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:eu.abeel.platform/environment/4.0.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:eu.abeel.platform/security/4.0.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:io.hawt/hawtio-log/2.17.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:io.hawt/hawtio-log-osgi/2.17.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.api/1.1.5
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.core/1.1.8
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.whiteboard/1.2.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.aries/org.apache.aries.util/1.1.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.felix/org.apache.felix.metatype/1.2.4
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.felix/org.apache.felix.scr/2.2.4
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.bundle/org.apache.karaf.bundle.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.deployer/org.apache.karaf.deployer.features/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.deployer/org.apache.karaf.deployer.kar/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.deployer/org.apache.karaf.deployer.wrap/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.diagnostic/org.apache.karaf.diagnostic.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf/org.apache.karaf.event/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.features/org.apache.karaf.features.command/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.instance/org.apache.karaf.instance.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.jaas/org.apache.karaf.jaas.command/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.jaas/org.apache.karaf.jaas.config/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,331 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.jaas/org.apache.karaf.jaas.modules/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.kar/org.apache.karaf.kar.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.log/org.apache.karaf.log.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.management/org.apache.karaf.management.server/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.package/org.apache.karaf.package.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.scr/org.apache.karaf.scr.management/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.scr/org.apache.karaf.scr.state/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.service/org.apache.karaf.service.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.services/org.apache.karaf.services.eventadmin/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |
> mvn:org.apache.karaf.shell/org.apache.karaf.shell.commands/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.shell/org.apache.karaf.shell.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.shell/org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.karaf.system/org.apache.karaf.system.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.sshd/sshd-osgi/2.9.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.sshd/sshd-scp/2.9.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.apache.sshd/sshd-sftp/2.9.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.jline/jline/3.21.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.ops4j.pax.url/pax-url-wrap/2.6.12/jar/uber
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |       mvn:org.osgi/org.osgi.service.component/1.5.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 | Stopping bundles:
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:49,332 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.felix.fileinstall/3.7.4
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,202 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.felix.configadmin.plugin.interpolation/1.2.6
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,202 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.felix.configurator/1.0.16
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,202 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.karaf.config.core/4.4.3
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,207 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.apache.felix.coordinator/1.0.2
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> FeaturesServiceImpl              | 17 - org.apache.karaf.features.core -
> 4.4.3 |   org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api/2.2.0
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling SLF4J API support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling Apache Commons
> Logging API support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 | Activator
>                 | 3 - org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 |
> Disabling JULI Logger API support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling Avalon Logger API
> support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling JBoss Logging API
> support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,208 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling Log4J v1 API
> support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,211 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling Log4J v2 API
> support.
>
> 2023-03-20T14:28:50,213 | INFO  | features-2-thread-1 |
> Activator                        | 3 -
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 2.2.0 | Disabling Java Util Logging
> API support.
>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,
>
> Maurice Betzel
> Principal Software Engineer
>
> *Gaston Schul Group*
> *Department ICT*
>
> Al onze verrichtingen geschieden op basis van de Algemene voorwaarden der
> Expediteurs van België, gepubliceerd in de bijlage tot het Belgisch
> Staatsblad dd. 24 juni 2005 onder nr. 0090237. De tekst van deze
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> All our transactions are subject to the General Conditions of the Belgian
> Forwarders Association which have been published under nr. 0090237 in the
> "Bijlage tot het Belgisch Staatsblad" dated June 24th, 2005, and is
> available free of charge upon request.
> Toutes nos opérations se font sur base des Conditions Générales des
> Expéditeurs de Belgique. Le texte en a été publié dans l' Annexe au
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