Mattias,

Could you do something like Student --> Autumn 2009 --> Math A ?  You could
then easily also have Teacher --> Autumn 2009 --> Math A.

Jeremy

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Mattias Persson
<matt...@neotechnology.com>wrote:

> 2010/2/19  <rick.bullo...@burningskysoftware.com>:
> >   Mattias (and everyone) - can you see a way to model multiple
> >   relationships of the same type between two nodes?  We have  few cases
> >   where the relationship is essentially the same "type" but might have
> >   different properties.  Max's "Class/Teacher" scenario is
> >   somewhat similar.
> Yes, I've used such models a couple of times and it's a completely
> valid usecase in some scenarios (not any particular comes to mind
> though).
>
> You're suggesting something like: we have a "Math A" class node and
> it'll have relationships to all teachers and students who have
> attended that class? You would then "loose" the information about
> which students have attended a specific class instance (f.ex. autumn
> 2009 or something) with a specific teacher (if you don't store that
> information on every Teacher ----> Class relationship and Student
> ----> Class relationship). Did I understand you correct?
> >
> >
> >
> >   Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >   -------- Original Message --------
> >   Subject: Re: [Neo] Choosing between a property or a node
> >   From: Mattias Persson <matt...@neotechnology.com>
> >   Date: Fri, February 19, 2010 4:27 am
> >   To: Neo user discussions <user@lists.neo4j.org>
> >   I've included some first thoughts on how you could model this. The
> >   choice of properties/index vs. relationships is often quite obvious,
> >   but is some cases you'll have to try and see which fits best. But
> >   neo4j encourages you to create relationships if you're in doubt and
> >   it's often better to use more relationships types than fewer, i.e.
> >   it's good to be as specific as possible when modelling your graph.
> >   2010/2/19 Max De Marzi Jr. <maxdema...@gmail.com>:
> >   > Hello,
> >   >
> >   > What is the proper way to handle things that have only a few choices
> >   like:
> >   >
> >   > gender (male/female/unknown)
> >   > status (active, inactive, purged)
> >   > race(10 choices + other)
> >   > etc.
> >   >
> >   > As properties of a Person node, or as nodes that link to the Person
> >   node?
> >   >
> >   > Pros or Cons of each method?
> >   It depends on how you're querying the data... gender, status and race
> >   could probably be modelled using properties (and maybe indexed with
> >   IndexService, see [1]http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-index/) since
> >   you
> >   would use them as filters in queries. But if you're planning to do
> >   traversals which will bridge persons over to other persons (or other
> >   entities) via f.ex. status, then relationships would be handier.
> >   >
> >   > How about something with instances?
> >   >
> >   > Student took a Class (twice) once with This teacher, once with
> >   Another
> >   > Teacher.
> >   >
> >   > The first time he failed, the second time he got a B.
> >   >
> >   > Create a StudentClass node with a property of Grade, linked to
> >   Teacher?
> >   Yes, have each student as a node. Each class instance as a node with
> >   TEACHES_IN relationship to teacher (and maybe CLASS_TYPE relationship
> >   to what type of class the class instance is). Have a TAKES_CLASS
> >   relationship between student and class instance and set grade property
> >   on that relationship.
> >   >
> >   > In order to answer:
> >   >
> >   > Find all students who took the class.
> >   Relationships between student and class.
> >   > Find all students who took the class when it was offered in the
> >   spring
> >   > semester (or taught by This Teacher).
> >   Start from either a teacher node (and go to the class instance) or
> >   from a class instance. They can be lookup up from and IndexService or
> >   something) and get relationships to students from there.
> >   > Find all students who got a B
> >   If you create nodes for each grade available and create relationships
> >   to those grade nodes whenever a student gets a grade. Then it'd be
> >   easy to just get that "B" grade node and traverse all its
> >   relationships to students. Otherwise you could index the grade
> >   property from the ATTEND_CLASS relationships (see above) for the
> >   student nodes.
> >   > Find all students to got a B in this class?
> >   Start from the class and traverse out to all its class instances and
> >   students, filtering those who got a B (using the grade property on
> >   ATTEND_CLASS relationships).
> >   > Find all students to got a B in this class during the spring
> >   semester?
> >   Same as previous but only traverse those class instances which were
> >   offered in spring semester.
> >   > Find all students to got a B in this class when This Teacher taught
> >   it?
> >   Start from either the teacher node or the class node and find the
> >   class instance for that class which the teacher has a relationship to.
> >   And tou get the students from there.
> >   I hope this will help you,
> >   Best,
> >   Mattias
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