This is interesting to me too, not just for the spatial index, but for the
composite index which I'm working on. That too is a tree based index
directly in the graph with the leaf nodes connected directly to the data
nodes (indexed nodes). This is obviously very convenience because the index
query in internally just a traversal. So there is great value in having the
index in the same database as the data. It certainly comes as a surprise to
me that this will be problematic.

In my own applications, the index code is just like application code, using
the same transactions and everything. That is clean and simple. Is it really
necessary to have indexing somehow separated in a way that causes these
issues?


On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Mattias Persson <matt...@neotechnology.com
> wrote:

> 2010/11/26 Peter Neubauer <peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com>
>
> > Mhh,
> > it was the public constructors.
> >
> > Also, the Spatial Index will be operating on the same Neo4j graph
> > instance and build an internal index. How am I going to server the XA
> > Datasource etc in that case? Could I get hold of the one for the
> > Kernel and return it maybe, or is there another mechaism signalling
> > that this index is actually belonging to the same XA datasource as the
> > kernel?
> >
>
> That's what I meant in my previous post. I'll try to fix that, but I just
> realized that there's internal problems which makes the possible solution
> not work in an HA environment and feel quite "hackish". It's because of
> "create index" and "delete index" commands lives in the lucene-index
> component/logical log. And to move them to kernel could be a mismatch and
> also it's too close to the next release to touch any of those things.
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Mattias Persson
> > <matt...@neotechnology.com> wrote:
> > > 2010/11/25 Peter Neubauer <peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com>
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> Craig and me thought of registering Neo4j-Spatial as a new
> > >> IndexProvider, so you can set up a NodeIndex with all the geographic
> > >> hints and setup you need, and then just index geometry nodes and ask
> > >> spatial queries over it in order to make the component better usable,
> > >> hopefully as easy as Lucene.
> > >>
> > >> Now, upon implementing
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j-spatial/blob/master/src/main/java/org/neo4j/gis/spatial/indexprovider/SpatialIndexProvider.java
> > >> and registering it like
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j-spatial/blob/master/src/main/resources/META-INF/services/org.neo4j.kernel.KernelExtension
> > >> ,
> > >> the test
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j-spatial/blob/master/src/test/java/org/neo4j/gis/spatial/IndexProviderTest.java
> > >> is failing, saying that no index provider "spatial" was found.
> > >> Anything wrong in the process?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Sounds great, and be sure to express any difficulties/shortcomings with
> > the
> > > API so that it can improved for these kinds of scenarios.
> > >
> > > It may be that you have to make the constructor public (I don't know in
> > what
> > > way the service API uses reflection and all that). Also there's this
> > > assumption that an IndexProvider provides its own data source. The
> > spatial
> > > index provider uses the graph itself (right?) so it could be a problem.
> > Let
> > > me look at and fix that, and then document how that's done for such a
> > > scenario (hopefully tomorrow).
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> /peter neubauer
> > >>
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