I think that notion of Importance implies the need for some form of action
based on that Information which distinguishes it from relevant or merely
interesting information.

Niall

On 4 January 2011 05:36, Robin Anil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Relevance is a personal choice. Global importance + Personalization and the
> ratio of the blend == Better(No one knows whats best yet :)
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Lance Norskog <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yup- the one-word story would be 'interesting' rather than 'relevant'.
> > Context matters: anything from the searcher to moment-to-moment
> > differences. Intertwined with this is attention.
> >
> > In econ-speak, the user has a resource called 'attention'.  You are
> > talking about optimizing the utils received when the user spends this
> > resource. ('util' is a unitless measure of'what you got when you
> > spent'.)
> >
> > Lance
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Dinesh B Vadhia wrote:
> > >
> > >> We could end-up in a hair-splitting hole.  Sounds like you want to be
> > able to identify things (items) that are relevant and important.  You
> could
> > also say, items that are relevant and of value.
> > >
> > > Yes, I would agree.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Describing the use-case might help?
> > >
> > > The use case is I am writing on the topic (well, a bunch of topics) and
> > the thought occurred to me that an organizing principal of this
> particular
> > section is best summed up by the word Importance, namely "Identifying
> > Important Content and People".  What I would like to be able to do is
> point
> > a user at the most relevant/important research in the area as well as
> some
> > open source implementations that help solve the problem and also provide
> the
> > basic theory behind it.  When I first outlined the section, I was mainly
> > going to focus on graph algorithms like PageRank, but it occurred to me
> > recently that it was broader than that.   Hence the question being aimed
> > more at the academic side of the equation and not so much at the
> > implementation side (besides, I would agree with most others here that
> the
> > actual implementations focus on either categorization or graph
> approaches.)
> > >
> > > From Twitter, there were other suggestions of things to look into:
> > significance, novelty, surprisal, information gain.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Grant Ingersoll
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 11:41 AM
> > >> To: [email protected]
> > >> Subject: Re: [slightly off topic] Determining Importance
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I guess Relevance is a useful word to describe it, but I don't think
> it
> > resonates as well  (that is, Joe on the street is much more likely to say
> > "That is important to me" than to say "That is relevant to me".)
> > >>
> > >> If we split hairs, Wikipedia defines relevance as "... how pertinent,
> > connected, or applicable something is to a given matter."  Webster has
> > important as "marked by or indicative of significant worth or consequence
> :
> > valuable in content or relationship" -- I think importance has a stronger
> > connotation than relevance.  Under these definitions, I think something
> can
> > be relevant but still not be important.  Certainly everything that is
> > important is also relevant.  And certainly all the studies around
> relevance
> > are important (!) to the discussion, but what I'm getting at is a bit
> deeper
> > (I think, but I can be dissuaded).
> > >>
> > >> I would also agree with Ted here in that I don't think PageRank is
> > necessarily a measure of relevance (the page, after all, is on the given
> > matter or not based on it's keywords, but it is Important because of the
> > fact that everyone else has said so).  I also wonder if we aren't clouded
> by
> > the use of relevance in search terms, particularly in keyword-based
> > approaches.  Importance to me factors in many other things (including
> > personalization).  Again, maybe I'm splitting hairs.
> > >>
> > >> -Grant
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> That is close, but I think that there is something else going on with
> > this
> > >>> as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is page rank a measure of relevance?  Not really (to my mind)
> > >>>
> > >>> Relevance has a strong notion of context.  What is relevant to me in
> > one
> > >>> moment may not be relevant the next moment.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Dinesh B Vadhia
> > >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Yep, what I'd call it too - relevance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> From: Jake Mannix
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:48 AM
> > >>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [slightly off topic] Determining Importance
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've got one word for you, Grant:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Relevance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------
> > >> Grant Ingersoll
> > >> http://www.lucidimagination.com
> > >>
> > >
> > > --------------------------
> > > Grant Ingersoll
> > > http://www.lucidimagination.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lance Norskog
> > [email protected]
> >
>



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