Hi Jojy

what mean for keep the “snapshot/backup” ? could you please give some docs
to ref

2015-11-13 1:59 GMT+08:00 Jojy Varghese <j...@mesosphere.io>:

> Hi Jeremy
>  Good to hear that you have a solution. Was curious about the correlation
> between snapshot creation and timeouts. Wondering if you can change
> “max_slave_ping_timeouts” / "slave_ping_timeout" as Joris suggested and
> keep the “snapshot/backup” also.
>
> thanks
> Jojy
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Jeremy Olexa <jol...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joris, all,
> >
> > We are still at the default timeout values for those that you linked. In
> the meantime, since the community pushed us to look at other things besides
> evading firewall timeouts, we have disabled snapshot/backups on the VMs and
> this has resolved the issue for the past 24 hours on the control group that
> we have disabled, which has been the best behavior that we have ever seen.
> There was a very close correlation between snapshot creation and
> mesos-slave process restart (within minutes) that got us to this point.
> Apparently, the snapshot creation and quiesce of the filesystem cause
> enough disruption to trigger the default timeouts within mesos.
> >
> > We are fine with this solution because Mesos has enabled us to have a
> more heterogeneous fleet of servers and backups aren't needed on these
> hosts. Mesos for the win, there.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone that has contributed on this thread! It was a fun
> exercise for me, in the code. It was also useful to hear feedback from the
> list on places to look, eventually pushing me to a solution.
> > -Jeremy
> >
> > From: Joris Van Remoortere <jo...@mesosphere.io>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:56 AM
> > To: user@mesos.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Mesos and Zookeeper TCP keepalive
> >
> > Hi Jeremy,
> >
> > Can you read the description of these parameters on the master, and
> possibly share your values for these flags?
> >
> >
> > It seems from the re-registration attempt on the agent, that the master
> has already treated the agent as "failed", and so will tell it to shut down
> on any re-registration attempt.
> >
> > I'm curious if there is a conflict (or too narrow of a time gap) of
> timeouts in your environment to allow re-registration by the agent after
> the agent notices it needs to re-establish the connection.
> >
> > —
> > Joris Van Remoortere
> > Mesosphere
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Jeremy Olexa <jol...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Tommy, Erik, all,
> >
> > You are correct in your assumption that I'm trying to solve for a one
> hour session expire time on a firewall. For some more background info, our
> master cluster is in datacenter X, the slaves in X will stay "up" for days
> and days. The slaves in a different datacenter, Y, connected to that master
> cluster will stay "up" for about a few days and restart. The master cluster
> is healthy, with a stable leader for months (no flapping), same for the ZK
> "leader". There are about 35 slaves in datacenter Y. Maybe the firewall
> session timer is a red herring because the slave restart is seemingly
> random (the slave with the highest uptime is 6 days, but a handful only
> have uptime of a day)
> >
> > I've started debugging this awhile ago, and the gist of the logs is
> here: https://gist.github.com/jolexa/1a80e26a4b017846d083 I've posted
> this back in October seeking help and Benjamin suggested network issues in
> both directions, so I thought firewall.
> >
> > Thanks for any hints,
> > Jeremy
> >
> > From: tommy xiao <xia...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 3:07 AM
> >
> > To: user@mesos.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Mesos and Zookeeper TCP keepalive
> >
> > same here , same question with Erik. could you please input more
> background info, thanks
> >
> > 2015-11-10 15:56 GMT+08:00 Erik Weathers <eweath...@groupon.com>:
> > It would really help if you (Jeremy) explained the *actual* problem you
> are facing.  I'm *guessing* that it's a firewall timing out the sessions
> because there isn't activity on them for whatever the timeout of the
> firewall is?   It seems likely to be unreasonably short, given that mesos
> has constant activity between master and
> slave/agent/whatever-it-is-being-called-nowadays-but-not-really-yet-maybe-someday-for-reals.
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Jojy Varghese <j...@mesosphere.io>
> wrote:
> > Hi Jeremy
> >  Its great that you are making progress but I doubt if this is what you
> intend to achieve since network failures are a valid state in distributed
> systems. If you think there is a special case you are trying to solve, I
> suggest proposing a design document for review.
> >   For ZK client code, I would suggest asking the zookeeper mailing list.
> >
> > thanks
> > -Jojy
> >
> >> On Nov 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Jeremy Olexa <jol...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alright, great, I'm making some progress,
> >>
> >> I did a simple copy/paste modification and recompiled mesos. The
> keepalive timer is set from slave to master so this is an improvement for
> me. I didn't test the other direction yet -
> https://gist.github.com/jolexa/ee9e152aa7045c558e02 - I'd like to file an
> enhancement request for this since it seems like an improvement for other
> people as well, after some real world testing
> >>
> >> I'm having some harder time figuring out the zk client code. I started
> by modifying build/3rdparty/zookeeper-3.4.5/src/c/zookeeper.c but either a)
> my change wasn't correct or b) I'm modifying a wrong file, since I just
> assumed using the c client. Is this the correct place?
> >>
> >> Thanks much,
> >> Jeremy
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jojy Varghese <j...@mesosphere.io>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:09 PM
> >> To: user@mesos.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Mesos and Zookeeper TCP keepalive
> >>
> >> Hi Jeremy
> >>  The “network” code is at
> "3rdparty/libprocess/include/process/network.hpp” ,
> "3rdparty/libprocess/src/poll_socket.hpp/cpp”.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> jojy
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Jeremy Olexa <jol...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Jojy, That is correct, but more specifically a keepalive timer from
> slave to master and slave to zookeeper. Can you send a link to the portion
> of the code that builds the socket/connection? Is there any reason to not
> set the SO_KEEPALIVE option in your opinion?
> >>>
> >>> hasodent, I'm not looking for keepalive between zk quorum members,
> like the ZOOKEEPER JIRA is referencing.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jeremy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Jojy Varghese <j...@mesosphere.io>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:37 PM
> >>> To: user@mesos.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Mesos and Zookeeper TCP keepalive
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jeremy
> >>>   Are you trying to establish a keepalive timer between mesos master
> and mesos slave? If so, I don’t believe its possible today as SO_KEEPALIVE
> option is  not set on an accepting socket.
> >>>
> >>> -Jojy
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 8:43 AM, haosdent <haosd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think keepalive option should be set in Zookeeper, not in Mesos.
> See this related issue in Zookeeper.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-2246?focusedCommentId=14724085&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-14724085
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Jeremy Olexa <jol...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> We have been fighting some network/session disconnection issues
> between datacenters and I'm curious if there is anyway to enable tcp
> keepalive on the zookeeper/mesos sockets? If there was a way, then the
> sysctl tcp kernel settings would be used. I believe keepalive has to be
> enabled by the software which is opening the connection. (That is my
> understanding anyway)
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is what I see via netstat --timers -tn:
> >>>> tcp        0      0 172.18.1.1:55842      10.10.1.1:2181
> ESTABLISHED off (0.00/0/0)
> >>>> tcp        0      0 172.18.1.1:49702      10.10.1.1:5050
> ESTABLISHED off (0.00/0/0)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where 172 is the mesos-slave network and 10 is the mesos-master
> network. The "off" keyword means that keepalive's are not being sent.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've trolled through JIRA, git, etc and cannot easily determine if
> this is expected behavior or should be an enhancement request. Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks much!
> >>>> -Jeremy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Haosdent Huang
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Deshi Xiao
> > Twitter: xds2000
> > E-mail: xiaods(AT)gmail.com
>
>


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