Andrew,

Please don't use (or suggest to use) copy and paste from docs. This generally 
end in a mess. A link to is far better IMHO to keep
docs unique and easily/securly updated, don't you think so ?

Thanks

Jacques

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?


> Ian,
>
> Wouldn't it be possible just to create a new set of documents that
> either hyperlink to useful information or copy and paste from those
> docs?
>
> Surely that's something you could start? If the information is valuable
> to you then that's what matters...
>
> - Andrew
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 12:22 +0000, Andrew Ballantine wrote:
> > Nicely put Ian. I agree.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian McNulty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 19 January 2007 09:42
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?
> >
> >
> > Jacques,
> >
> > All that looks good as it stands. It's another one of those essential
> > engineering resources that I really wouldn't want to be messing around
> > with it at all.
> >
> > Imo what is needed in terms of user rather than developer documentation,
> > is a completely fresh start form a completely different POV.
> >
> > It isn't the absence of documentation that's the problem. It's the
> > presence of it. There's just way too much good stuff on offer. Too many
> > options. Too many possible ways to go.
> >
> > For the developer this is heaven. For the noob it's confusing...
> > frustrating... a real turn off.
> >
> > Take off your racing drivers hat for a moment and put yourself in the
> > position of someone who just wants something they can drive to work.
> >
> > Now look at the Wiki. Is there a Start button, or does it look more like
> > the diagram of a wiring harness that you will never get your head
> > around?  You and I may be interested in using Eclipse, but I can't think
> > of one client I have ever met who would want to go there. They're all to
> > busy building their businesses - which is after all what OFBiz is
> > supposed to be about.
> >
> > Take another look at Ubuntu.com. Imo that's the way to go. Nice big
> > buttons! Absolutely nothing there that I don't need to know.  And most
> > people will only read a fraction of that on the first run through anyway
> > :-/  For the few who want to customise their own hot-rod, all the
> > essential wiring is there if you look for it. It's just buried out of
> > the way behind the dashboard instead of scattered all over the floor.
> >
> > Putting something together like that would require a zero tolerance
> > policy to any scrap of information that was not absolutely essential to
> > the business of showing the average driver how to get the thing into
> > gear and out onto the road.
> >
> > I doubt if there would be anything new to write. It's basically all there.
> >
> > But it would mean hacking quite crudely into stuff that the community
> > has taken years to create.
> >
> > Without the community's approval, that's a show that could never get on
> > the road.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > > Leon, all,
> > >
> > > There is already an open Wiki. Just have to create your login :
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/pages/listpages-dirview.action?key=OFBIZ. I
> > > can't see a better tool for that : closed for some parts, open for
> > others...
> > >
> > > It's up to you folks...
> > >
> > > For instance http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Online+Developers+Section
> > might be a good entry point for
> > > http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php.
> > >
> > > BTW, I think that we may advertise for this and put a front page to
> > explain how it works (for instance that the "The Open For
> > > Business Project Wiki" is wide open)
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Leon Torres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> I also believe it would be worthwhile to experiment with an open ofbiz
> > wiki.  As
> > >> the ofbiz community continues to grow, we will certainly attain the
> > critical
> > >> mass necessary to make such a thing work.
> > >>
> > >> For instance, we've authored a bunch of cookbooks in .txt format about
> > specific
> > >> tricks and how-to's in OFBIZ:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately contributing to those is hard because it takes an
> > investment in
> > >> time to read, verify, and update the documents on our end.  If they were
> > in the
> > >> form of an open wiki, it would be far easier to expand on them.
> > >>
> > >> - Leon
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Florin Jurcovici wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> IMO, an open wiki is the right thing to do. Even if I had some
> > >>> experience which I'd like to share, if the wiki is closed or restricted,
> > >>> I cannot. Some maintainers should review docs occasionally and correct
> > >>> or delete them if they are not OK, maybe draw an outline of the
> > >>> documentation at the beginning then let whoever is willing to fill the
> > >>> pages. But IMO a closed/restricted wiki is not the way to go.
> > >>>
> > >>> --Florin Jurcovici
> > >>> ------------------
> > >>> Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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