May be we think on the line of Event Driven Architecture (EDA) based Enterprise Service Bus (ESB). Apache service mix offer these capabilities.

Thanks,

Raj
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Philip

That's a great idea, (the queue part), but not how it's done now.  This queue 
thing is useful on many levels.  It provides a super way of synchronizing 
multiple data centers when one happens to go offline for a while.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:23 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: timesheet status



Sounds like fun stuff.
Is your autoposting design and implementation well under way?

I would advocate for a queue type of system.  One can publish a "invoice 
created" message onto the queue, and the other systems can be subscribers on the 
queue and process the message.

In my past life, I was a b2b  integration specialist and dealt with 
tibco/interconnect/etc/.

Phillip


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From: "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:01:06 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: timesheet status


By auto-posting I mean automatically posting GL entries for system events related to financially important artifacts like invoices, payments, inventory, and so on.

-David


On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Phillip C. Rhodes wrote:

David,
By autoposting, do you mean OFX integration to bank systems to import bank transactions into the system? Or is autoposting something else?

Phillip
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From: "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:34:38 PM (GMT-0500) America/ New_York
Subject: Re: timesheet status


On Oct 10, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

Currently the timesheet in workeffort does not seem to have a
status. Is
there a reason for that?

It would be nice if a user can indicate that his timesheet is complete
by changing the status accordingly.

Then when the timesheet is invoiced the status could be changed to
'invoiced' which would prevent the user further changing the
timesheet.

Anybody any thoughts on this?
Yeah, a few thoughts:

1. helping the user know what is up with their stuff is great

2. the danger with statuses is that they can be redundant
information, and we want to avoid that (for example, we do not have
statuses on the OrderHeader for shipment and invoice and payment
related things, those are attached to their respective entities); for
Timesheets I'm not sure if they really have a status that it makes
sense to manually change

3. a Timesheet is meant to contain time entries from one date/time to
another date/time, for 2 weeks perhaps (to correspond with their pay
period or something), so determining whether the time sheet is active
or not should be determined this way

4. the billing of the related TimeEntry records may be attached to
various different WorkEfforts and could be billed on different
invoices for the same Timesheet, so that should be determined by
looking at all invoices related to the various time entries related
to it

5. it might be nice to have a manual status to denote that all time
entries for the period have been entered, because it is normal that
people enter time either all at once based on a paper form, or on a
daily/hourly basis if they enter time right after each block of work,
but even in the second scenario sometimes people forget to enter
hours right away and hours could come in after the time period for
the Timesheet has passed

Any other statuses anyone can think of?

BTW, it's great to see work going on in this area... I am continually
frustrated with project management software. We're a month into using
a commercial product right now and it's okay, but there are lots of
things we can't do, it's expensive as we have to pay for each
employee or client agent we want to have access the system, and in
general it would be great to have something based on a more flexible
data model (and one that we're familiar with and can manipulate!) so
we're definitely moving toward creating a OFBiz-based system. All of
our efforts are going back into OFBiz, but of course it is just
progressing as we have unused resources (and competing with other
OFBiz enhancement efforts we are working on like a good service-level
automated test suite, and fleshing out the accounting component so to
do the auto-posting and reporting so that one does not have to use a
certain HPL/commercial licensed product to do that). For our early
stuff, see the workeffort and projectmgr components.

-David







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