Aside from it being easier to find the data when they are in these entity fields (which are always there, don't require a join/view or additional find, etc), not all of the data is available in the *Role entity.

The fields on the CommunicationEvent entity have 3 bits of information for each party:

1. the fact that it is the from or to party
2. the ID of the from or to party
3. the role (like customer, employee, whatever) of the from or to party

-David


On Mar 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

As I said all that data is duplicated in the roles entity...
the role tells where it comes from, it can more than one destination and
can have many more participants in various other roles.....
In the case of the communication event it even contains the contactMech
used and status per participant.....vary important in an email
communication event.

The partyIdTo is even confusing if it was an email send to several
persons....

i also do not say it is applicable to other entities, only for
communication event...

Everywhere the entity Communicationevent is used it needs to it replaced
by the CommunicationEventAndRole view to have the same info.....

anybody else any opinions?

Regards,
Hans



On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 00:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
What about all the other places where this pattern is used, ie where
there are partyId and/or roleTypeId fields along with a *Role entity?
There are probably dozens of them...

The main idea of these is to have the most common, and often
necessary, roles represented on the main entity.

Also, if we remove these fields how would we know which is the from
and to, along with allowing various different roles for the from and
to parties?

-David


On Mar 10, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

I would like to propose to depreciate the fields "partyIdFrom and
PartyIdTo and related roles and contact mech in the communication
event.

All these fields fields are duplicated in the communicationEventRoles.

if no objections i will slowly phase them out...first in the entity
reference and then in forms and screens.

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