Another alternative to RMI is JSON.

We use the JSON library that comes with ofbiz to make ofbiz service
calls.  The library converts the results from the service to a json
string.  This can be easily parsed by an AJax client or java client.

Rmi is ok but a little heavy for our needs.  There were also
serialization problems when using eclipse for debugging and ant for
builds.


Brett

On 4/15/09, David E Jones <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
> If you can share your experiences with that it would be great!
>
> Whatever the case, I hope your use of OFBiz is working well for you,
> and feedback (or contribution... ;) ) of things to improve in the
> project to make how you are using it easier is always welcome.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Cimballi wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks for your comments.
>>
>> As I said before, here we are developing a site this way (using
>> RMI), so
>> when it will be ready, I will post a feedback on the list.
>>
>> Cimballi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David E Jones
>> <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That sounds like a different scenario. Naturally if you change the
>>> requirements the solution should be different!
>>>
>>> In that case you'd have the front-end running on the client talking
>>> to the
>>> ecommerce webapp server, which would probably be best just talking
>>> to the
>>> database.
>>>
>>> That's different from have the main HTML generation using mostly
>>> OOTB stuff
>>> talking via RMI to yet another app server that then talks to the
>>> database.
>>>
>>> On a side note, I'd recommend being careful introducing too many
>>> technologies! From experience people often don't know them as well
>>> as they
>>> say thy do and that's the main reason for choosing them. The net
>>> result is
>>> that you can't reuse existing artifacts and have to write lots more
>>> from
>>> scratch, and in addition you'll still have some UI using the
>>> standard OFBiz
>>> tools and it means people maintaining it going forward will have to
>>> know or
>>> learn about a larger set of tools.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Cimballi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David !
>>>>
>>>> I would not be so "stubborn" and there can be several reasons why
>>>> to not
>>>> use
>>>> OFBiz on the client side.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine you want to provide a "web2.0" flashy site to the
>>>> customer, and
>>>> you
>>>> have a killer PHP or JSP developer in your team who can do all the
>>>> UI
>>>> stuff.
>>>> Then, it can be interesting to let him doing his job and then call
>>>> OFBiz
>>>> services via RMI or WS. I would not ask to the UI developer to
>>>> learn OFBiz
>>>> way to develop UIs, and, even more, OFBiz offers the possibility
>>>> to call
>>>> its
>>>> services remotly.
>>>>
>>>> In a project, there are technical reasons, business reasons, and
>>>> human
>>>> reasons. The best solution is the best mix of these 3.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you think it can be a good alternative ?
>>>>
>>>> Cimballi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David E Jones
>>>> <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Depending on what the more specific requirements are the usual
>>>>> (and by
>>>>> FAR
>>>>> the easiest) way to do this is to use the same software on the
>>>>> ecommerce
>>>>> and
>>>>> back-end servers, but have configuration differences so that only
>>>>> the
>>>>> ecommerce webapp is available on ecommerce sever (ie turn off the
>>>>> other
>>>>> webapps), and only the non-ecommerce applications are enabled on
>>>>> the
>>>>> back-end servers (unless you want to use them for ecommerce
>>>>> staging as
>>>>> well,
>>>>> then you can certainly leave that on, but that server is
>>>>> generally ONLY
>>>>> accessible internally of course).
>>>>>
>>>>> In this scenario all app servers are communicating with the
>>>>> database
>>>>> server
>>>>> and coordinate that way. There is no need for communication
>>>>> between the
>>>>> servers except for the Entity Engine distributed cache clearing.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you use a pattern of a webapp server that talks to an app
>>>>> server that
>>>>> talks to a database you have an extra level of remote
>>>>> communications and
>>>>> that will significantly slow down your response times... as well
>>>>> as add
>>>>> the
>>>>> need for LOTS of coding! There is only one reason I know of for
>>>>> doing
>>>>> such
>>>>> things: a very stubborn person with his hands on the purse strings.
>>>>> That's
>>>>> it, there is NO good technical or business reason for such
>>>>> things. Some
>>>>> claim greater scalability, but real-world testing proves otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Vince Clark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our client has a requirement to deploy their ecommerce storefront
>>>>> on a
>>>>>
>>>>>> physically separate server from the back office apps. We have been
>>>>>> experimenting with other frameworks and integrating via web
>>>>>> services for
>>>>>> some time, and this requirement pushes up the urgency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Options we are considering:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Use OFBiz MVC framework to build the ecommerce site and deploy
>>>>>> it on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> separate server. Use RMI to communicate between two OFBiz
>>>>>> instances.
>>>>>> • Tapestry - Java based, so maybe RMI is still an option. But
>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>> if that really makes it any easier than using web services.
>>>>>> • Symfony - we have prototyped this and exposed things like user
>>>>>> login
>>>>>> and shopping cart via web services on the OFBiz side. Have
>>>>>> tested this
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Axis2 and Mule.
>>>>>> • DJango - Just looking into this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our primary motivation for going with Symfony or DJango is to
>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> tier as light weight as possible. It would be all about
>>>>>> presentation,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> would consume all functionality from OFBiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to feedback from the community on this topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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