This is something we discussed in the DEV ML: http://www.mail-archive.com/d...@ofbiz.apache.org/msg36156.html
-Bruno 2010/2/6 Adrian Crum <adrian.c...@yahoo.com>: > Yes, follow Jacopo's suggestion: create an ant task to build framework only, > then "run the framework only" > > *shrug* I don't know what that means. > > Maybe have a Selenium task that checks to see if it actually runs on its own. > > I'm not real clear on how that would work, but it would definitely be worth a > try! > > -Adrian > > --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Chris Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> wrote: > >> From: Chris Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: what a mess! is framework independence ever going to be >> possible? >> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org >> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 12:49 AM >> Shall I raise a jira for this? Is >> there any documentation on the build and >> test process for ofbiz? e.g. does buildbot run ofbiz and >> run any tests? >> >> > We can probably start with something simple: add an >> ant task that simply >> > builds the framework (applications and specialpurpose >> will be ignored) and >> > then an ant task to run the framework only. >> > This will require some minor tweaks to the base >> component loading >> > mechanism, but it should be trivial. Right now the >> only way (I am aware >> > of) of building a framework only distro is to remove >> (or similar) the >> > application and specialpurpose folders. >> > >> > Jacopo >> > >> > >> > On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >> > >> >> A tool would certainly help. If such a tool was >> included in OFBiz, then >> >> it would have to be compatible with the Apache >> license. >> >> >> >> -Adrian >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Chris Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Chris Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> >> >>> Subject: Re: what a mess! is framework >> independence ever going to be >> >>> possible? >> >>> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org >> >>> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 12:02 AM >> >>> Thanks for the feedback Adrian. >> >>> Would it be worth me writing a tool that >> >>> runs as part of the build process that reports >> on the >> >>> dependencies? It >> >>> could throw a warning/error when a new invalid >> dependency >> >>> is checked in? >> >>> >> >>>> Chris, >> >>>> >> >>>> Framework independence has been a goal for >> quite a >> >>> while. There is no >> >>>> disagreement that the framework should run >> on its own. >> >>> The disagreements >> >>>> arise in what constitutes the framework. >> >>>> >> >>>> Let's assume for a moment that framework >> independence >> >>> means running the >> >>>> components in the framework folder >> independently from >> >>> anything else in >> >>>> OFBiz. Right away the problem with that >> idea is that >> >>> visual themes are in >> >>>> a separate folder outside the framework >> folder. Does >> >>> framework >> >>>> independence include the visual themes >> folder? That >> >>> has not been >> >>>> discussed. Then there are the multitude >> of >> >>> dependencies upon the >> >>>> applications folder. >> >>>> >> >>>> From my perspective, achieving this >> objective will >> >>> require a two pronged >> >>>> approach: 1) Identify the framework >> dependencies on >> >>> outside components, >> >>>> and 2) avoid introducing new framework >> dependencies on >> >>> outside components. >> >>>> >> >>>> The first prong can be accomplished >> through >> >>> contributions from people like >> >>>> you - find the dependencies and create >> patches to fix >> >>> them. >> >>>> >> >>>> The responsibility of the second prong is >> up to the >> >>> committers. We need to >> >>>> be more vigilant to guard against >> introducing new >> >>> dependencies. >> >>>> >> >>>> Personally I believe it will be possible, >> BUT it won't >> >>> be easy. The >> >>>> obstacles to overcome will be getting >> people to >> >>> contribute to the effort, >> >>>> and getting committers to avoid >> introducing new >> >>> dependencies. >> >>>> >> >>>> -Adrian >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Christopher Snow >> <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> From: Christopher Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> >> >>>>> Subject: what a mess! is framework >> independence >> >>> ever going to be >> >>>>> possible? >> >>>>> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:58 >> PM >> >>>>> I'm back to the process of working >> >>>>> out how to get a standalone framework >> running >> >>> based on >> >>>>> trunk, but I have found that the >> dependencies have >> >>> got out >> >>>>> of hand (if I've understood the code >> right): >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Framework depends on Themes >> >>>>> Themes depends on Content >> >>>>> Content depends on Party >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The questions I'm starting to ask >> myself are: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Is is ever going to be possible to >> have >> >>> framework >> >>>>> independence in trunk? >> Independence in 9.04 is >> >>>>> relatively trivial (rewrite security >> screens) >> >>> perhaps the >> >>>>> most sensible thing would be to do a >> fork of 9.04 >> >>> and then >> >>>>> back port all framework related >> commits from >> >>> trunk? " >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Any ideas anyone? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Many thanks, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Chris >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) >> (Open) CISSP >> >>> >> >>> Tel: 01453 890660 >> >>> Mob: 07944 880950 >> >>> Www: www.snowconsulting.co.uk >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) (Open) CISSP >> >> Tel: 01453 890660 >> Mob: 07944 880950 >> Www: www.snowconsulting.co.uk >> >> > > > >
