Hi guys,

Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only,
so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally
experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there). 

During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks:

* One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide)
* One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group
(Myself - Paul)
* One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal  (Olivier)

As a short wrap-up to those: 

OFBiz Addons:
Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been
developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before.
Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for
merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking
was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to
manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or
not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as
well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras
project.

General Introduction to OFBiz & target group: 
I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target
group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and
its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was
proposed that our target group was mostly "mid- to largesize" businesses,
due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on
how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed:
1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the
framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make
it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material
(developers & companies)

OFBiz Extras: 
Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject "OFBiz Extras" in
which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to
strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on
the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based
upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic
checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based
on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and
documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to
handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The
concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the
commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz
may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of
sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope.

Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a
private evening discussion. In it we discussed "OFBiz Alliance" and its
implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present
agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing
material which could be used by the general public.

Cheers,
Paul


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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23
An: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks

Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)?

Thanks

Jacopo

On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:

> Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at 
>> Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/
> 
> [..]
> 
>> I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have 
>> time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, 
>> ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, ....
>> - Tuesday 6th evening
>> - Wednesday 7th lunch Time
>> - Wednesday 7th evening
>> These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of 
>> technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on 
>> who is present.
>> Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and 
>> which subject would be interesting and/or important.
> 
> I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the 
> details yet) and looking forward to meet you.
> 
> Christian



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