Le 07/08/2014 16:38, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
On 07/08/2014 9:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: I know the truth :p.
And nothing need to be fixed
You can apologize, I'll not mind :p
I don't owe anyone an apology since I wrote nothing that was directed against anyone but were comments on the project documentation from a new
System Administrator's point of view.
The version description is obscure to someone outside the project and needs to
be fixed.
However, if you feel that anything that I wrote was directed against you, I
apologize for leaving you with that impression.
I think I took it personally because I'm at the origin of the versionning
pattern and it was not easy to convince others (as Jacopo's remark shows).
And you are right there were no real reasons to apologize, it was also a kind
of joke on my side.
I think that my comments on the installation were accurate and did result in
missing information being added to the docs.
Yes they were, and I fixed that indeed.
I hope that my comments on the Download page will help other new System
Administrators understand the release structure more easily.
OK, Jacopo fixed that already. Though any committers can take the burden of releasing, so far this was always done by the PMC chair in OFBiz project.
So Jacopo was the most well placed to continue on that.
I appreciate that it is difficult to write documentation when the author is an
expert in the topic.
It is hard to put oneself into the mindset of someone who knows nothing about the product or the discussions that have gone into the design and is
trying to learn everything that they need to know from written docs.
I think we already had this discussion, which is exactly the truth indeed and
the root of most understandings
Jacques
Ron
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Le 06/08/2014 21:18, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
The page should be changed to reflect the actual policy.
13.07 seems like an odd way to number the first release of the 13 major
version. I don't see it in the distribution page.
I certainly makes it more difficult to understand and makes it harder to use
any of the Maven Release tools
I guess that it does put some pressure on the PMC to get stuff done since the
second digit has to be selected at the start of the release.
You are committing to a release month before you start the work.
Ron
On 06/08/2014 3:00 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
Ron,
In 2009 or thereabouts the PMC decided to adopt the Ubuntu way of numbering OFBiz releases. Since then every year in april a release was cut.
But as the number of active committers is decreasing the time to release a cut takes more time. Last year broke with that policy, resulting in
a release been cut with number 13.07.
Regards,
Pierre Smits
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Ron Wheeler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
https://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html page needs updating.
Is the 12.04.05 release date closer to being known?
The description of the Release number says that release numbers
consist of 2 parts
"The naming convention for OFBiz releases is*<Major Release
Number>.<Minor Release Number>"*
but the releases seem to have 3 digits. Patch description missing.
The 13.x.x series part of the page puzzles me.
It seems to indicate that some early versions 13.0.0, 13.07.01
should already be able to be downloaded.
It also seems to indicate that the 13.x.x will be released in 2014
which means that it should have a 14.x.x release number.
I am not sure why a non-standard pattern of release identification
was adopted but it is confusing and now inconsistent.
It leads to the impression that the project is not active since it
missed 2013 altogether.
Would it not be possible/"good thing" to adopt a standard pattern
of releases where the first digit indicates major change with some
risk of serious work required to upgrade, second digit indicating
significant new functionality but no change to the existing data
structure or functions that are not changing and the last digits
indicating a minor bug fix?
Ron
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