Ha and forgot the main point related with this thread. This will allow us to merge the 2 marketing pages into Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing and
drop the General+Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing with all its attachments then.
I believe it will also be easier to handle only 1 space, notably to use the machete in it. We have of course though to merge things before, should not
be too hard, cases like above are rare.
Agreed?
Jacques
Le 17/08/2016 à 12:51, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
Sharan,
Sorry to seem again out of subject, but you will see where I'm going to.
The question we should ask ourselves, is when content/attachments in a page
should be only accessible to the PMC.
For content we have not problems. Only contributors are able to modify pages contents. Anyway this is not a problem because we (I at least) monitor
all changes in the wiki and if I see a change which should not happen we (I) can still restore a correct version from history. As an admin I can
even restore a deleted page from the space trash. To be safe, admins should always agree about deleting a page from the space trash, for instance to
vacuum when necessary. I noticed both these actions are extremely rare.
So far contributors are also able to add and delete news, comments and attachments. We don't use news in the wiki, one issue less. Because it's hard
to retrieve comments and attachments, even as an admin (we need to ask infra to look into an ASF wide backup), I suggest we remove the possibility
for contributors to delete news, comments and attachments. Then we are safe from all changes and we no longer need a distinction between open and
closed wiki :) If nobody disagree I'd do that in few days.
BTW while at it I noticed Amit Gadaley had no rights, I gave him the needed.
Jacques
Le 17/08/2016 à 09:25, Sharan Foga a écrit :
Hi Jacques
This is an interesting idea and it might have been good to start a new thread
as it has digressed a little off topic again :-)
In theory I agree that we do need to do some tidy up and consolidating into 2 spaces sounds like it could work well. We just need to see how to
merge the data from the existing spaces and also add a good navigation system so that people can find things easily.
Back to original topic – I don't think that we can consolidate all the marketing information into a restricted space mainly because I think we
will need to allow for the ability for any contributor to add new papers and presentations. As a first step though – we could remove the wiki
page and move the data to the project admin space for now and see how that works.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2016-08-17 07:41 (+0200), Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
wrote:
Hi Sharan,
I thought about that, and I believe we should not add a new page but rather
complete the Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing page by using what's
interesting in the General+Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing page and then
drop it.
To answer Taher's message, I believe we face a mess and this remembers me
http://www.howtomakesenseofanymess.com/ Sharan suggested, I stopped at
http://www.howtomakesenseofanymess.com/chapter/1/page/21/draw-your-mess/
I think the right attitude when facing a mess, is to CUT in it.
* We need to drop, or at least put a lot of wiki pages in archives.
* For that we could create a specific OFBiz archive space, not linked from
the other spaces.
* I also suggest to have only 2 other spaces, one completely open, where
most pages should be.
* And one only accessible to PMC (and committers?) where really sensible
information should be, these last pages should be very rare and only when
really needed.
Then we can improve the content of "Documentation" menu-link from
http://ofbiz.apache.org/ . Notably
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index
(hint: this is also kinda an answer to Taher)
Trying to improve navigation before cutting in the mess, will have a tendency
to fail... What do you think?
Jacques
Le 16/08/2016 14:58, Jacques Le Roux a crit :
Hi Sharan,
I suggested at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing?focusedCommentId=65865874#comment-65865874
to remove the page below because I tried yesterday to move the images from the
page above to the one below. I wanted to merge the 2 pages, a reason
I afterwards renamed the page above. Another reason I afterwards renamed the
page is because when in Confluence you put special characters, like
parenthesis, etc., in the title then you don't get a nice title for the page,
but a number :/
But it's hard to *move* attachments in bulk in Confluence. You have to do it
one by one :/
So I tried to download them all and upload them back to the page below. But the
process failed in the middle. You might also notice that it's hard
to *remove* attachments in bulk in Confluence. You have to do it one by one :/
That's why I suggested to put this page in archive (actually deleting it lets
it in the space's trash
https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/delete-or-restore-a-page-139429.html) and
to create a new one. I also tried to watch the Powerpoint there (on
WIndows using the the Powerpoint viewer!) but it failed, so there is nothing to
keep there! I suggest to drop it and create a brand new page,
inspired by the page below, for the ideas you rightly suggested.
Thanks
Jacques
Le 16/08/2016 11:03, Sharan Foga a crit :
Hi Everyone
We currently have a page in the wiki that was used initially for branding and
marketing but has now has a lot of broken links.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/General+Material+for+Branding+and+Marketing
The logo files don't need to be on this page as they are all available
elsewhere. Rather than remove it I suggest that it could be tidied up and
that the page focus (and name) could be changed to make it into one that links
to OFBiz white papers, OFBIz presentations, etc.
I'm not sure if we already have something like this or if it covered as part of
OFBiz in the news but I think having this type of material
available could be good for newcomers. What do people think?
Thanks
Sharan
