Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look! (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>wrote: > 2.1 can be downloaded from here > https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ > I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem > > other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash > to achieve this > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nuntius.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it >> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3 >> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html . >> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line >> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where >> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't >> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as >> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed >> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable? >> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview. >> >> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in the >> right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you have >> any binaries for 2.1? >> >> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard: >> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in >> the setup. >> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", just >> have it default to the first option in the list the first time you start. >> For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240. >> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant >> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working! >> >> >> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here are >> a number of directed questions: >> >> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than what's >> sprinkled across the unstructured >> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and >> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/> >> ? >> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video feeds >> embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of the >> chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this >> possible at all without recompiling the source? >> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making an >> account? >> >> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but >> we'll get to them later. >> >> Cheers, >> Marius >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <jaimeb...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Yes. Very good! >>> >>> >>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html >>>> >>>> default.landing.zone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <jaimeb...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> George, >>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may >>>>> appear like Dashboard. >>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The >>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I >>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine. >>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues >>>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in >>>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default >>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two points are >>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of >>>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard. >>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux >>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in >>>>> the OM GUI. >>>>> >>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au> >>>>> >>>>>> Jaime,**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first >>>>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s >>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the >>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the >>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings >>>>>> to >>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is >>>>>> select >>>>>> the correct room to enter.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the >>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the >>>>>> user >>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into >>>>>> the >>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which >>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 >>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty >>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t >>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.* >>>>>> *** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks,**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> George Kirkham**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimeb...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen, >>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I >>>>>> see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and >>>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too >>>>>> many >>>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk. >>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <stephen.cott...@robertbird.com.au>**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying >>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and >>>>>> the general GUI?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimeb...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01 >>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a >>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is >>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps. >>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why >>>>>> escapes the interface itself.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <stephen.cott...@robertbird.com.au>**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything? >>>>>> >>>>>> If so go here: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i >>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools >>>>>> >>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf - >>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest >>>>>> H264 >>>>>> compile steps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen Cottham >>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate) >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Bird Group >>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St >>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia >>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS) >>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK) >>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799 >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS) >>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK) >>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain >>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. 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None of the sender or its >>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage >>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules***** >>>>>> >>>>>> www.codetwo.com**** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.ma...@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49 >>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org >>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like a system that works like this: >>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and >>>>>> get >>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started. >>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone* >>>>>> *** >>>>>> >>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very >>>>>> much appreciated :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Marius**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WBR >>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
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