Thanks, Maxim. Maybe there is a file path or something I need to add.
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>wrote: > I'll try to double check the tool. I was sure it performs the full clean up > On Aug 26, 2013 5:50 AM, "Lee Saunders" <leesenglishless...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Indeed, Sebastian and Maxim have done a great job, and very generous to >> keep it Open Source. >> It was just frustrating to realise I'll have no hard disc left very >> quickly. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Jacob Gaiski <jgai...@emich.edu> wrote: >> >>> I think OpenMeetings require a somewhat knowledgable background with >>> Java and running servers on Tomcat/Red5.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I would recommend that you become familiar with Java the programming >>> language and yes, take a look at the source. If you can get it to compile, >>> publish your version and put in logging functions so that you can better >>> see what it's doing.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> You should also be able to localize it onto a machine and debug it from >>> Eclipse, given you have the right enviroment. I think the one you need is >>> Eclipse Juno.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Once you have the entire system localized onto your machine, you can >>> attach and remove debug points from anywhere within the source and see >>> exactly what's happening from a server perspective as you execute client >>> code, and also be able to enter your changes accordingly as you need in the >>> code as well.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I'm not sure if what you're trying to do is standard in OpenMeetings, >>> but in either case, editing the source the possibilities are endless, >>> thanks to Sebastion and Maxim at the OpenMeetings/Apache group.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -Jake**** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Lee Saunders [mailto:leesenglishless...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:30 PM >>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Why don't calendar events expire?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Hello Jake,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thank you for your help. I think everyone knows more about that than I >>> do.**** >>> >>> I don't know about programming applications. I learnt some PHP and MySql >>> from books to build an order tracking/customer info database system, and >>> that was it.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I did experience a recording issue today. A student left the room and >>> returned, but the recorder didn't record any of their voice after they >>> returned to the room, so only my half was recorded. I'll put that down >>> to experience.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I could perhaps learn from the source, thanks.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All the best,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Lee.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Jacob C. Gaiski <jgai...@emich.edu> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> Write a console app that scans the database and removes files after >>> encoding.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Though, if there's a corrupt video and the encoded video becomes >>> corrupted, you'll have no fall back if say, a multithreaded random bug >>> happens that causes your ffmpeg to run before the stream had closed.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I did all of my conversions with a console application that runs FFMPEG >>> and updates a table every 20s.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> If you'd like the source that makes it happen I can send it to you.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> But all in all I'd recommend that you build a console app that reads >>> from a database and changes it accordingly.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -Jake**** >>> >>> >>> On Aug 25, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> Maxim, I ran -f, --file, and --cleanup, but that doesn't >>> touch the streams.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Those recordings really need to be removed after rendering to AVI. They >>> will simply fill my disc if nothing can be deleted. Every meeting is 1 hour >>> long and recorded, and there is already 6Gb of data in those streams after >>> one day. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Please don't think of me as moaning. Open Meetings is a great platform. >>> I am just concerned about filling my disc with redundant data.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Is it not possible to GET the user IDs for a roomID and delete the >>> relations to the files so they can be deleted? I think not being able to >>> delete anything, even under a warning, is somewhat restrictive and disc >>> hogging. I understand the concerns about complaints about something later >>> down the line and the need to retrieve data, but that would be the decision >>> of the admin/IT team and management. Besides, there should be a backup of >>> all that data anyway.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I guess the only other way around it is to record a 1-second video and >>> audio clip and replace all the files with them. That way the file names >>> will remain intact. It will be time consuming, but better than rendering my >>> disc full and unusable after about 3 months. What does Open Meetings do >>> when a disc is full?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All the best,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Lee.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> you can use command line admin for this:**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -f,--files File operations - statictics/cleanup >>> **** >>> >>> --cleanup (optional) Should intermediate >>> files be clean up**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Lee Saunders < >>> leesenglishless...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> I would like to delete recordings after downloading them to clear disc >>> space. I'm not sure why the 'drag to trash' option is there if the files >>> are not really deleted.**** >>> >>> I need to remove them somehow as disc space is finite.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thanks,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Lee.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:32 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> Not really.**** >>> >>> The files in the /streams/hibernate folder are the final videos of the >>> recordings. If you delete them all your recordings are gone. >>> >>> The files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folders are the raw recording files. >>> Based on those files there is a complete video mixed (that is then produced >>> into the /streams/hibernate folder).**** >>> >>> Theoretically you can delete the files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folder >>> as the final mixed video is already produced.**** >>> >>> However for recordings based on the interview room type, there is a >>> functionality to re-render the raw data but with some parameters to adjust >>> the audio (make it loader, delay the audio, et cetera). Those are useful if >>> you want to post-edit the video from inside OpenMeetings because for >>> instance one participant has a microphone that is a lot loader then some >>> other participant. Once the video is "mixed" into the final format there >>> would be no way of re-adjusting those settings. So there is some button in >>> the OpenMeetings UI to re-render the raw files with some additional >>> settings.**** >>> >>> If you delete the files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folders bascially the >>> UI functionality is pointing to files that do no more exist. >>> Also there are entries in the database that point to the files in the >>> /streams/$ROOM_ID directory. So in general, it would be basically a bad >>> idea to just delete those folders, UI functionality might be broken and the >>> data model would be inconsistent.**** >>> >>> Sebastian**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com>**** >>> >>> Is it safe for me to delete the sub-folders in the streams directory?*** >>> * >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Lee Saunders < >>> leesenglishless...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> Thank you for the technical information.**** >>> >>> I'm just going my my experience using another system in which each >>> meeting was tied only to the originator and could remain open over any >>> number of sessions, and then closed when complete. Once complete a PDF of >>> the whiteboard and accompanying documentation was created as a soft copy >>> for download, stored in the users account. So, even though the meeting had >>> been closed, a downloadable representation of the meeting was available in >>> an archive. I do see how Open Minutes works differently, though.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All in all, Open Meetings is a great service. Thank you for creating it. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> We actually never physically delete anything, we just mark/flag as >>> deleted and don't show it in the UI anymore.**** >>> >>> There are multiple reasons why you do that in software. For instance >>> there are are often foreign key constraints. That means that you can't >>> physically delete an user, cause this userId is a foreign key in some other >>> tables. And by deleting the user physically you would get an inconsistance >>> data model.**** >>> >>> This will become a real issue when you work with databases that have >>> "real" foreign keys (postgres, oracle, MySQL InnoDB, et cetera). However >>> even with data on disk in files, just because you "can" delete those files >>> without throwing any error does not mean that this is a good idea, as for >>> example records in the database still point to that file. By doing that the >>> data model simply becomes inconsistent. Some references are missing, it >>> pretty much gets a mess if you start to delete files.**** >>> >>> Another reason is that you want to keep track on changes that have >>> happened. This is sometimes a legal requirement in companies and >>> government. You just never delete hard, data must be always possible to be >>> restored. For instance an user xyz claims his important file XXX was >>> deleted at the 28.12.2009, now the sys admins need to recover that file. >>> **** >>> >>> There are however attempts to have some kind of clean up tasks that >>> delete such references to free up disk space. But if ever implemented it >>> has to be done very carefully and clear to the sys admin that there is no >>> way back, you will loose data and you probably should back up the data >>> before doing it. >>> >>> Bottom line is: Don't delete, just flag as deleted.**** >>> >>> Sebastian**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com>**** >>> >>> Ah, I see. I guess that does make sense. I just worry about having a >>> list of rooms that becomes too long to manage.**** >>> >>> Perhaps then, completed meetings could go into an archive\ completed >>> events section, thus keeping them separate from pending events.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I have also noticed that deleted recordings remain in the streams folder >>> (..\webapps\openmeetings\streams\). Why don't they get deleted when moved >>> to trash?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All the best,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Lee.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> Hi Lee, >>> >>> I don't think we should delete the room after a calendar event was >>> terminated. Otherwise for example any uploaded or created data that was >>> part of the conference room itself would be gone.**** >>> >>> Also you can attach existing rooms to multiple calendar events. So the >>> relationship between room to calendar event is not 1:1.**** >>> >>> Sebastian**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com>**** >>> >>> Hello,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I tested the calendar, but after the event had ended, the room persisted. >>> **** >>> >>> Is there a way to terminate the event when the 'Exit' button is clicked >>> rather than delete the event in the calendar and receive a 'Cancelled' >>> message?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I think that if an event is terminated before the start or end time, >>> then yes, it is cancelled, but after the end time, a meeting has usually >>> ended.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Just a suggestion.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All the best,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Lee.**** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> -- >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -- >>> WBR >>> Maxim aka solomax **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >> >>
