...sorry: 5443 and...
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El lun, 25-03-2019 a las 16:31 +0100, Alvaro escribió: > ...and ports to open: 5080 and... > > ............. > El lun, 25-03-2019 a las 21:11 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > Hello Alvaro, > > I would recomment to use port 5443 only in your tutorial > > 5080 will cause WebRTC problems :) > > > > Yep link to the SNAPSHOT is OK :) > > > > @All > > Can I pack 5.0.0-M1 RC1? > > WDYT? > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 17:40, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ...this link can be?: > > > https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeet > > > ings/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/openmeetings- > > > server/target/apache-openmeetings-5.0.0-M1-SNAPSHOT.zip > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > El lun, 25-03-2019 a las 11:23 +0100, Alvaro escribió: > > > > Maxim, just today can upload a tuto OM 5 on Ubuntu 18.04, > > > > but i need a link to OM 5 file (maybe the snapshot?) to > > > > download > > > > and to know the ports to open: 5080 and... > > > > > > > > .................... > > > > > > > > > > > > El sáb, 23-03-2019 a las 08:04 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > escribió: > > > > > Hello Alvaro, > > > > > First released WebRTC version will be 5.0.0-M1 > > > > > > > > > > According to "How configure "nobody" user in kurento-docker?" > > > > > It is described here [1] "Kurento Configuration" section > > > > > > > > > > I would copy `/etc/default/kurento-media-server` file from > > > > > "real" KMS installation > > > > > To some local folder for ex. /opt/kurento-config > > > > > Change DAEMON_USER > > > > > and then add another `--mount` command to `docker run` > > > > > --mount type=bind,source=/opt/kurento- > > > > > config,target=/etc/default/kurento-media-server > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://hub.docker.com/r/kurento/kurento-media-server/ > > > > > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 02:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Please Maxim, could you let me know: > > > > > > # Number of OM 5.x.x release > > > > > > # This is the last point i need: How configure "nobody" > > > > > > user in kurento-docker? > > > > > > Thank you... > > > > > > > > > > > > ................................... > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 18:10 +0100, Alvaro escribió: > > > > > > > ...sorry, Google transllation works not very right.I > > > > > > > mean, not lies but "Main"... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ................ > > > > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 18:04 +0100, Alvaro escribió: > > > > > > > > My interest lies in the time required for the > > > > > > > > preparation of OM 5 tutorials. Relax a little, taste > > > > > > > > your work and give me a time to prepare the tutorials.I > > > > > > > > also think that OM 5 may be the only next release > > > > > > > > ............................... > > > > > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 23:33 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > My idea was to release 5.0.0-M1 (so "WebRTC train" > > > > > > > > > can start moving)Then perform some merge between > > > > > > > > > 4.0.x and 5.0.0 branches (to make my life easier) > > > > > > > > > Then we can discuss if it worth to release 4.0.9 :) > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 23:17, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmail. > > > > > > > > > com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Could you please tell when will be the next 4.0.9 > > > > > > > > > > release? > > > > > > > > > > I think you should let it ripen about two more > > > > > > > > > > weeks. This will polish possible issues and i'll > > > > > > > > > > have time toprepare the installation tutorials. > > > > > > > > > > ....................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 22:32 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > It seems all major issues for 5.0.x were fixed > > > > > > > > > > > Any objections to release 5.0.0-M1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M1 == Milestone 1, i.e. this version worth wider > > > > > > > > > > > testing but might be not production ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:54, Maxim Solodovnik <so > > > > > > > > > > > lomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to be the same issue with Audio in > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Screen-sharing/Recording is not working > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll to deal with Audio (will ask you to test) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And will try to check screen-sharing using > > > > > > > > > > > > "real" Mac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most probably next week > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please file JIRA regarding this :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:44, Alvaro <zurcamos@g > > > > > > > > > > > > mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, now it is installed kurento on Ubuntu > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.04. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Server: OM 5.0.0 - Ubuntu 18.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Client: Safari - Firefox in Mojave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take a look the videos: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 Firefox recording in room.mov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 Safari recording in room.mov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 kurento Firefox and Safari.mov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 06-03-2019 a las 21:22 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not hesitate to report any issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is really hard to develop OM5 without user > > > > > > > > > > > > feedback :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:53, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5.0.0 is on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8 > > > > > > > > > > > > 443/next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to get feedback > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complex multiuser scenarious are welcome :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:55, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello James, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what version are you running? and what are > > > > > > > > > > > > the issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it nightly build from our build server? or > > > > > > > > > > > > are you building from sources? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:53, james judge <jju > > > > > > > > > > > > dge.develope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am new to the group,. but I welcome > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.0.0 and will be happy to test. I've got an > > > > > > > > > > > > aws ubuntu 16 instance running and will happily > > > > > > > > > > > > provide feedback. I have had some issues with > > > > > > > > > > > > the current version doing desktop sharing and > > > > > > > > > > > > can't wait to see it possibly working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James Judge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.JamesJudge.info > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (570) 230-4933 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:13 PM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.0.8 VOTE is on the way > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's time for this DISCUSSION :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was able to implement some missing features > > > > > > > > > > > > (recording+screen-sharing) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I believe now it's time to deploy current > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.0.0 version to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demo-next and perform couple of rounds of > > > > > > > > > > > > "community testing" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 17:36, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good to know it is not OM issue :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can use postgres as DB, should work out > > > > > > > > > > > > of the box :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 16:12, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Maxim. 've follow your link and run: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql -u root -p mysql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That have changed something in my Debian 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > that affect also to my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows 10 (two hours less) but could'nt > > > > > > > > > > > > install OM 5 on Debian 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, in Debian 9 was 10 hours AM, and in > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows was 8 hours AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today, in Debian 9, 've changed tzdata from > > > > > > > > > > > > Europe/Madrid to Atlantic/Azores > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (two hours less). After this tryied install > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5 and...WINNER! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem it was relationed with tzdata, as > > > > > > > > > > > > you said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................... > > > > > > > > > > > > .............. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 17:01 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check this article: https://stackoverflow.com > > > > > > > > > > > > /questions/49518683/the-server-time-zone-value- > > > > > > > > > > > > cest-is-unrecognized > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:00, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is weird you have both: Europe/Madrid > > > > > > > > > > > > (CEST, +0200) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to Google this error, should be > > > > > > > > > > > > something well-known > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:55, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...i will try in Fedora 28. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is it you ask: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19 > > > > > > > > > > > > CEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:37:19 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Network time on: yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NTP synchronized: no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RTC in local TZ: yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warning: The system is configured to read the > > > > > > > > > > > > RTC time in the local time zone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mode can not be fully > > > > > > > > > > > > supported. It will create various problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with time zone changes and daylight > > > > > > > > > > > > saving time adjustments. The RTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time is never updated, it relies on > > > > > > > > > > > > external facilities to maintain it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If at all possible, use RTC in UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > by calling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'timedatectl set-local-rtc 0'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...then i run: timedatectl set-local-rtc 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and after again: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:39:11 > > > > > > > > > > > > CEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Network time on: yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NTP synchronized: no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RTC in local TZ: no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................... > > > > > > > > > > > > ................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 16:30 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just have checked with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mysqld Ver 5.7.23-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 for Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > on x86_64 ((Ubuntu)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe there are some more TZ settings in > > > > > > > > > > > > MariaDB? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the output of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `timedatectl` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:18, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...in: /etc/timezone ...is Europe/Madrid, but > > > > > > > > > > > > i've reconfigured tzdata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Europe/Madrid, but the resultat is the > > > > > > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With OM 4.0.7 is no problem installation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........................................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:47 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The error is "The server time zone value > > > > > > > > > > > > 'CEST' is unrecognized or represents more than > > > > > > > > > > > > one time zone. You must configure either the > > > > > > > > > > > > server or JDBC driver (via the serverTimezone > > > > > > > > > > > > configuration property) to use a more specifc > > > > > > > > > > > > time zone value if you want to utilize time > > > > > > > > > > > > zone support." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MySql for some reason don't like if time zone > > > > > > > > > > > > is set as CEST, can you run > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and set something like 'Europe/Madrid' as > > > > > > > > > > > > time zone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:43, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take a look attached files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:34 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will try to reproduce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything useful in the logs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:32, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5 - Snapshot 2605 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When try install it say: Could not create > > > > > > > > > > > > connection to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > database.... (attached capture). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Debian 9, mysql-connector-java-8.0.12.jar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .................................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 09:04 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correction: OM5 will work with MySql driver > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.x but you need to change driver class in > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql_persistense.xml to achieve this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Driver class name has been changed in 8.x and > > > > > > > > > > > > was producing warning in the logs, this is why > > > > > > > > > > > > I have changed it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 09:01, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Alvaro, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM5 requires latest MySql driver 8.0.12 [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM4 can use both 5.x and 8.x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/mysql/ > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql-connector-java > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:38, Alvaro <zurcamo > > > > > > > > > > > > s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got the attached capture trying install > > > > > > > > > > > > OM 5 (first Snapshot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of today 18-10-2018). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With mysql-connector-java-5.1.46.jar and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql-connector-java-5.1.47.jar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .................................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El vie, 12-10-2018 a las 09:48 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some news regarding WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Settings dialog is made more user friendly: > > > > > > > > > > > > less "silent fails", less JS errors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT it seems some RTC features are not > > > > > > > > > > > > working if you have MS Edge and Win 10 NOT pro > > > > > > > > > > > > or Enterprise [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 2 identical VMs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) with Win 10 Pro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) with Win 10 Pro.N > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have issues with #2 and everything works as > > > > > > > > > > > > expected on #1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Additionally there is an issue with Edge > > > > > > > > > > > > browser: [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would appreciate if you can test latest > > > > > > > > > > > > version on "demo-apache" [3] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/mic > > > > > > > > > > > > rosoft-edge/platform/issues/17357055/#comment-5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPE > > > > > > > > > > > > NMEETINGS-1956 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/open > > > > > > > > > > > > meetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:53, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Document conversion is actually broken on > > > > > > > > > > > > this demo server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be caused by server > > > > > > > > > > > > configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No sure yet what is wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will try to fix it in a week or two, have no > > > > > > > > > > > > idea what can be wrong :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:46, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to perform additional code-review > > > > > > > > > > > > and will check this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is only initial version :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully will be improved :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:39, Stefan Kühl <ste > > > > > > > > > > > > f...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked it again with Win10 und FF, but with > > > > > > > > > > > > a USB Headset and it works well! (I just > > > > > > > > > > > > recognize that my voice was also in my > > > > > > > > > > > > headphones?!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Retry it with the non USB Headset und it > > > > > > > > > > > > won't work. I mentioned that FF and Chrome > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't ask for permission to use the the > > > > > > > > > > > > microphone of the non-USB Headset. Maybe, this > > > > > > > > > > > > a the point we should draw our attention too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 15:49, schrieb Daniel Ascher: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is now working properly in Edge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:04 AM Stefan Kühl <s > > > > > > > > > > > > te...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing changes. Got another test on an > > > > > > > > > > > > virtual Win10 and fresh firefox installtion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Same behaviour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 10:27, schrieb Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is weird: you got "MS Edge" errors on > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome+FF :(( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have fixed some "Edge" errors, so demo > > > > > > > > > > > > should behave better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll fix some more errors with settings > > > > > > > > > > > > dialog later ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:32, Stefan Kühl <ste > > > > > > > > > > > > f...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The screenshot was taken in firefox 62.0.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > and ubuntu 18.04., same behaviour in chrome > > > > > > > > > > > > 69.0.329 and ubuntu 18.04. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also tried with root and sudo to avoid > > > > > > > > > > > > restrictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 07:23, schrieb Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What OS/Browser are you using? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:09, Stefan Kühl <ste > > > > > > > > > > > > f...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried the OM 5 Demo with plugged in headset. > > > > > > > > > > > > But no chance to choose it. The "Choose > > > > > > > > > > > > microphone" option remains in "Loading data, > > > > > > > > > > > > please wait" and everytime i try to reload, the > > > > > > > > > > > > red error message appears. Headset is not USB > > > > > > > > > > > > but chinch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.10.2018 06:27, schrieb Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually it is not one page it is OM site > > > > > > > > > > > > being re-build with every nightly build ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Site contents should be ready to 5.0 release, > > > > > > > > > > > > so all pages need to checked/updated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news, changelog and announces will be updated > > > > > > > > > > > > during release process, so it displays 4.0.5 > > > > > > > > > > > > right now :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:53, Daniel Ascher <a > > > > > > > > > > > > plusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This page: https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R > > > > > > > > > > > > /view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/site/openme > > > > > > > > > > > > etings-server/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is set up for version 4.0.5, correct? Is that > > > > > > > > > > > > what you want me to check for errors/updates? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you want something mentioning version > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.0? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:51 PM Daniel Ascher > > > > > > > > > > > > <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just checked in Edge but there is a > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:21 PM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document upload seems to be jodConverter > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or server issue, hopelly will be able to > > > > > > > > > > > > address > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was 5.0.0 working under Edge? Any issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Additional task might be to check site of 5.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > version: https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/vie > > > > > > > > > > > > w/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/site/openmeetin > > > > > > > > > > > > gs-server/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and report any outdated/missing/unclear page > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:03, Daniel Ascher <a > > > > > > > > > > > > plusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's really great that you got WebRTC going!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure it's been a lot of hard work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried uploading a document but it didn't > > > > > > > > > > > > work. I assume that the document conversion > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff isn't configured yet so that is why I > > > > > > > > > > > > asked what needs to be tested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try using it in Edge and do some of the > > > > > > > > > > > > testing you mentioned. Let me know if there is > > > > > > > > > > > > anything else I can help with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:09 PM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Daniel, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, this is WebRTC :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nettesing and Video setup seems to work as > > > > > > > > > > > > expected and most probably will not be changed > > > > > > > > > > > > too much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Room Audio/Video is in "early-alpha" stage > > > > > > > > > > > > and I would like to know: how good is it so > > > > > > > > > > > > far? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is on/off audio/video being correctly > > > > > > > > > > > > handled? Same regarding add/remove rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This version should not work in IE11, Does in > > > > > > > > > > > > work in Safari/Edge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 01:48, Daniel Ascher <a > > > > > > > > > > > > plusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxim. I see that the webcam and audio are > > > > > > > > > > > > working. Is this WebRTC? What would you like us > > > > > > > > > > > > to check for when we are trying it out? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current (I would say alpha version) is > > > > > > > > > > > > available on our demo server: https://demo-open > > > > > > > > > > > > meetings.apache.org/openmeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something still not implemented, and there > > > > > > > > > > > > are definitely some issues, but this version is > > > > > > > > > > > > "playable" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be great to get some early feedback > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 18:35, K, Amit (MIND) < > > > > > > > > > > > > ami...@mind-infotech.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best of luck... J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gma > > > > > > > > > > > > il.com] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 4:44 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > .apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: OM 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Aaron, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently trying to set up demo with > > > > > > > > > > > > somehow working version of 5.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will let you know if it will be successful :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 23:35, <aaron.hepp@gmai > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How close do you think it is for going into > > > > > > > > > > > > live testing with OM5? 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