Hi!

Again: You should NOT fire a CDI event in AfterBeanDiscovery. The reason is 
that the Contexts may not have been started at this stage. 

E.g. you will not find any @SessionScoped contextual instance that way...


Maybe you start explaining the use case you have. What is the problem you like 
to solve?


LieGrue,
strub


On Monday, 14 April 2014, 16:33, Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 
Hi again
>
>
>Maybe I was not all clear in my question. My question is:
>
>
>- In my extension class, when observering CDI container events when (when 
>observing what type of events) is it okay to fire an CDI event that will reach 
>all CDI managed beans observing the same event?
>
>
>Regards
>Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <[email protected]> 
>wrote:
>
>Hi Mark
>>
>>
>>So I could fire a CDI event in the AfterDeploymentValidation method in my CDI 
>>Extension and @Observe the same type of event in my @ApplicationScoped bean? 
>>Is there any possibility that the CDI event will be fired and not seen by the 
>>bean in this case? I don't know the details here about when I can fire the 
>>events and who will see them if its done in a CDI Extension during startup.
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the help so far
>>
>>
>>Regards
>>Lars-Fredrik
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>simply via a CDI event probably?
>>>
>>>LieGrue,
>>>strub
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday, 11 April 2014, 15:30, Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <[email protected]> 
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the answer. Its a shared WAS environment so we will see what 
>>>>happens when we do a "hard" restart of all EARs in that WAS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If I have CDI extension that needs to communicate to the application all 
>>>>classes with a certain annotation, how would you suggest to do that 
>>>>without doing it the way I do it now, that is initialize a bean in a CDI 
>>>>extension in AfterDeploymentValidation?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Lars-Fredrik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Nope, this MUST NOT happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Otoh it's also not supported to initialize any bean in 
>>>>>AfterDeploymentValidation, as only _after_ that event all the contexts 
>>>>>will get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's by incident that the ApplicationContext is already started before in 
>>>>>OWB - but there is nothing in the spec which guarantees this!
>>>>>
>>>>>It might be some classloader issue as well. I'd open a PMR for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>LieGrue,
>>>>>strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Friday, 11 April 2014, 10:19, Lars-Fredrik Smedberg 
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We have an @ApplicationScoped bean that is first created in a CDI 
>>>>>>Extension (in a method that @Observes AfterDeploymentValidation) .
>>>>>>After creation the method calls an init-method (together with some data 
>>>>>>collected in a method @Observes ProcessAnnotatedType) on the
>>>>>>@ApplicationScoped bean which internally sets a flag. This flag is 
>>>>>>checked by all business methods on the bean (a flag that marks the
>>>>>>bean as initialized). 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are no other method that explicitly sets the flag to false, the 
>>>>>>only time the flag is false is when the bean has been created the first 
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We are running WAS 8.5.5.1 and see in our trace logs that after some time 
>>>>>>the flag is false which indicates that the @ApplicationScoped
>>>>>>bean has been recreated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Can @ApplicationScoped beans be recycled/reinitialized somehow? And if 
>>>>>>so under what circumstances?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Lars-Fredrik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
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>>>>
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>>
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