:) Just to be clear, whilst I have some views on the Akka approach,
specifically addressing Patrick's question:

I don't think there's much prospect of people making a "technological
leap" to River from Akka because the real trigger for such a jump
would be a change in mindset.

And because there have been so many "remoting failures" that didn't
trigger that mindset leap I don't see how Akka would provoke the
change anymore than anything previously.

And, if I've saved you from a little RSI you're most welcome :)

On 24 October 2011 12:45, De Groot, Cees <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the rant, Dan - saves me a lot of typing :).
>
> It seems we have a generation of people that have been educated in software 
> development while being well shielded from a) the hardware, and b) anything 
> previously accomplished in the field. I've just started up a little project 
> to do HA and fast messaging, and people are surprised that I insist on 
> getting the HA bits right before even considering writing a single line of 
> code for the actual messaging/queueing, etcetera. But then, I've yet to see 
> one good product where HA (and scalablity, in various combinations) worked 
> when it was slapped on as an afterthought.
>
> The best thing that Jini/River has to teach us is to what extent remoting 
> needs to be transparent to the developer. Sadly enough, more than most people 
> are willing to put up with, but it's pretty hard to ignore basic facts of 
> your trade and still expect working outcomes.
>
> On the initial question: I'd love to see first-class bindings for Scala in 
> River (especially employing the function-as-a-first-class-citizen bit). 
> Sounds like a cool project (but then, I got the one I just started to 
> complete first ;-)).

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