Yes, I understand why we use indexes, what I meant was that when you are suggesting that we need a new index that you provide some evidence about why that particular index is necessary.

Your example below is completely valid, but the ur_userid_idx index has always been there, so that's not a new index.

For example, you said we need to add these 2 indexes ...

create index ws_bloggercatid_idx    on website(bloggercatid);
create index ws_defaultcatid_idx    on website(defaultcatid );

why? off the top of my head I can't think of a reason those indexes would be of benefit because I don't believe we run any standard queries which do a lookup or join on those columns. I may be wrong, but that's why I would like some evidence before we would just add the indexes for no reason.

-- Allen


Boris Milikič wrote:
1) I've got "Impossible WHERE noticed after reading const tables" message, when 
I ran explain on sql from prevoious e-mail:
 SELECT t0.id, t0.content, t0.contenttype, t0.email, t0.name, t0.notify, 
t0.plugins, t0.posttime,  ....

2) So I run explain on this simple query:
explain select a.rolename ,b.username from rolleruser b, userrole a where b.id=a.userid;

3) Explanations of why  indexes are necessary

Column  "type" in following table is the join type. Type ref means, that all 
rows with matching index values are read from this table for each combination of rows 
from the previous tables, example a).

For a tables that are completely read in sequence from the hard drive EXPLAIN lists "ALL" in the "type" column. To the second table in the join plan for a two table query, EXPLAIN lists type: ALL, as for table without index, example b).
In example b)  when EXPLAIN lists type: ALL for each table in a join "this output 
indicates that MySQL is generating a Cartesian product of all the tables; that is, every 
combination of rows" (MySQL manual). In simpler terms: Two tables of 10 rows each 
joined together does not result in 20 rows, it results in 100 rows (10 multiplied by 10).

a) with index

select_type table type possible_keys key key_len ref rows extra
1       SIMPLE  b       ALL     PRIMARY <NULL>    <NULL>    <NULL>    3       

1       SIMPLE  a       ref     ur_userid_idx   ur_userid_idx   144     
roller.b.id     1       

b) without index (drop index ur_userid_idx on userrole( userid );)      
                                                                
1       SIMPLE  a       ALL     <NULL>    <NULL>    <NULL>    <NULL>    4       

1       SIMPLE  b       ALL     PRIMARY <NULL>    <NULL>    <NULL>    3       
Using where


Using too many indexes on tables can make things worse, as you said. In many 
cases, MySQL can calculate the best possible query plan. In very large database 
partitioning help.

-- Boris

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Problem with database load

Can you also provide explanations of why you think those indexes are necessary? 
 Having too many indexes on tables can actually make things worse, so you don't 
want to just flood the db with tons of indexes.

-- Allen


Boris Milikič wrote:
I just found  one more missing:

create index ws_posttime_idx    on roller_comment (posttime);

Next weekend I will walk through sql log and  dbcreate.sql script and record in 
JIRA if I find something.

Boris

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Problem with database load

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Boris Milikič <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Did you  created missing indexes in rollerdb (4.0):

 create index ws_bloggercatid_idx    on website(bloggercatid);
 create index ws_defaultcatid_idx    on website(defaultcatid );
Thanks Boris,

I just opened an issue for this:
https://issues.apache.org/roller/browse/ROL-1687

Are there any other 4.0 database issues that you know of that are not on record 
in JIRA?

- Dave

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