I would have to see what such a market becomes, but I think the Apache
Roller site should allow advertisements of people who will provide
Roller blog hosting, either free w/ads or with a cost w/no ads. This
would not be a particular money-maker, as the fact that Blogger and
Wordpress are free would put a limit on how much one could charge for
blog hosting, and it would be limited primarily to those who like
Roller's velocity based templating and the bells and whistles it
provides and would pay for that specifically. OTOH, for somebody who's
already gone to the effort of Tomcat hosting just for his or her Roller
blog, it wouldn't be much effort for that person to allow additional
blogs, and if he can get a few extra blogs to cover the cost of his
Tomcat hosting, great.
What is really needed are those who are already in the business of
providing Tomcat hosting to just sell simple Roller blog accounts of an
already existing instance of Roller on Tomcat. They should be able to
offer that at a considerably reduced price over standalone Tomcat hosting.
Glen
On 06/25/2012 08:46 AM, Chalupa, Leroy T CTR USAF AFWA AFWA /SEMS wrote:
Glen:
I agree with you that hosting a tomcat instance for one or two blogs is not
cost effective.
What would it be worth to you for me or someone else to host an instance of
roller? It wouldn't take many
paying users to pay for a hosted site. I want to avoid ads on the site. On
some sites, ads are so intrusive it's difficult to find
the content on the page: less is more.
Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JRoller replacement? (Was Re: Apache Roller 5.0.1 available&
upgrade recommended for all Roller sites)
I think that's Roller's biggest problem right now with its adoption, namely
the lack of a community service providing hosting for it.
Perhaps it didn't work for DZone (JRoller hosters) because they weren't
shutting down inactive blogs (maybe hundreds create a "Hello World!"
blog entry and ignore their blog forever after), bloating the administrative
load, perhaps also in not requiring a blogroll linkage back to its site. To
fix the first problem, maybe it would be good if Roller had an "auto-delete"
feature, deleting all blogs that haven't had a new entry after an
administrator-defined number of months; the second, giving the administrator
an ability to force a blogroll entry or some other advertisement on
everybody's blog, pointing back to the hoster.
As for working at a company that offers Roller hosting, I suspect most devs
try not to keep blogs with their company if they can avoid it, because
people switch from company to company and want to take their blogs with
them. For that reason, people might be reluctant to ask their companies to
host Apache Roller even if they prefer it. The alternative for people in my
shoes, paying for Tomcat hosting, is time-consuming and not cost-effective
(having each user individually pay for Tomcat hosting just to host one blog
is overkill.)
I've used Roller for six years and am quite pleased with it--Google Blogger
holds my hand too much and is too restrictive, but having looked at it again
last week, I can see that Blogger has much improved over the last time I
looked at it (2008), so switching is probably doable for me.
Glen
On 06/24/2012 02:43 PM, Dave wrote:
I don't know of any other public Roller hosting services.
If you are really desperate for Roller you could get a job at Oracle
and get a blog on the Roller server at blogs.oracle.com ;-)
- Dave
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Glen Mazza<[email protected]> wrote:
JRoller has long deprecated their service; they're stuck on 3.1 and
not accepting new accounts. Is anyone aware of another community
blogging service that hosts using Apache Roller? I couldn't find
anything. If not I'll need to transfer probably to Google's Blogger
service.
Glen
On 06/24/2012 01:03 PM, Dave wrote:
New release: Apache Roller 5.0.1 is now available on Apache mirrors
world-wide and you can find it here:
http://roller.apache.org/downloads.html
This release fixes two security vulnerabilities in Roller, listed below:
CVE-2012-2380: Apache Roller Cross-Site-Resource-Forgery (XSRF)
vulnerability
CVE-2012-2381: Apache Roller Cross-Site-Scripting (XSS)
vulnerability
Because the above are serious security vulnerabilities, we recommend
that all sites running Apache Roller upgrade to this new release as
soon as possible.
Thanks,
Dave
--
Glen Mazza
Talend Community Coders - coders.talend.com
blog: www.jroller.com/gmazza
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Glen Mazza
Talend Community Coders - coders.talend.com
blog: www.jroller.com/gmazza
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Glen Mazza
Talend Community Coders
coders.talend.com
blog: www.jroller.com/gmazza
