Understood. Thank you Andreas. 

On Apr 13, 2026, at 2:58 AM, Andreas Reichel <[email protected]> wrote:


Lenny,

thank you for the explanations, I do understand all of this and where it comes from.
I only wanted to bring up the idea, that exactly this orthodox approach may not help with a faster adoption of Shiro 3.

And no, we have not tested it yet since we do only DB/AD/Text realms in plain Java. Sorry.

Best and cheers
Andreas




On Fri, 2026-04-10 at 18:08 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
Thank you for your feedback, Andreas.

Shiro has a long-standing constraints about releases:
- Apache projects at least 3 PMV votes for a release
- Shiro follows (and and enforce) strict Semver-compliant releases.

What that means in practice is that once a major version is released, any minor version needs to be
both API and binary compatible with the major version. We don’t want to release a major version too early,
since if the API changes, we may need to bump the major version again.

For 3.x, we bumped the base JDK to 17, Jakarta EE to 11 (although 9/10 are still compatible) and SpringBoot to 4.x

Have you tried 3.0.0-alpha-1 yet?

On Apr 10, 2026, at 3:33 AM, Andreas Reichel <[email protected]> wrote:

Greetings Lenny and Team,

thank you so much for all your work and effort.
To us, Shiro is one of the great Whisps working endlessly in the background w/o ever been seen or acknowledged gratefully.

From my very personal opinion, I recommend just to release more often (w/o much voting) by increasing the minor version. We at manticore-projects.com take the latest minor version anyway and update the major versions only based on CVEs and or JDK requirements. Only when an issue was found we would roll back to the latest known working minor version.

In short: throw it into the cold water and let see if it swims. A 3.0 out, followed by fast 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 will work wonders. Blame me for any issues caused 😄

Best and cheers
Andreas



On Thu, 2026-04-09 at 15:45 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
I have been using 3.0.0-alpha-1 in production for a few weeks now, and already found an API issue that was fixed in the 3.x branch..
Would love some additional feedback from other users.

On Apr 9, 2026, at 3:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Hi,

We really need feedback for Apache Shiro 3.0.0-alpha-1.
Can you try it? Any issues uncovered would be really appreciated.
Also, can we get some feedback on what to do with our next release, as seen below?

We really appreciate the time and effort.

On Mar 30, 2026, at 7:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:

GitHub user lprimak created a discussion: Next 3.x release discussion

Apache Shiro team released 3.0.0-alpha-1 about a month ago.
If you have tried it, can you please share any feedback. Positive or negative.

Thank you

What would you like to see as the next 3.x release?


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