Many thanks Martin for your explanations, they are very clear, and i'm less concerned now, and quite confident i could move to the ISO 19115:2014 revision, with no problems on the XML metadata generated.

Le 24/07/2014 00:09, Martin Desruisseaux a écrit :
Hello Emmanuel

The new revision of ISO 19115 standard will published in 4 parts:

  * What we were used to call "ISO 19115" will become "ISO 19115-1".
    This is the part is about UML (in our case, Java interfaces).
  * The ISO 19115-2 extension will keep the same name.
  * What we were used to call "ISO 19139" will become "ISO 19115-3".
    This part is about XML representation of ISO 19115-1.
  * XML representation of ISO 19115-2 will be specified in ISO 19115-4.


Only ISO 19115-1 has been published. The 3 other parts have not yet been published. This means that we do not yet have a XML standard for the new metadata model. Consequently, only the Java interfaces are upgraded to the new ISO model in Apache SIS. The XML representation stay unchanged.

When upgrading the Java API for the new ISO model, we have some new methods and some "removed" methods. The "removed" methods are actually deprecated - they are not really removed. We try to not change method signature as much as possible, but there is a few cases where we can hardly do otherwise. E.g. some Collection<ResponsibleParty> become Collection<Responsibility>.

All deprecated methods have a replacement in the new ISO model - there is no lost. However the new model can express more information than the old one, so there is some potential lost when using the new model in Java API, then marshalling to the old XML schema. However Apache SIS try to emit a warning in such cases. We do not catch all data lost, but hopefully the main ones.

Apache SIS implementation of deprecated methods delegate their work to the new methods. So there should be no difference in using old or new methods - the data should be stored in the same place.

In my understanding, the European INSPIRE program will continue to use the old XML schema until the next INSPIRE metadata revision, which would happen in about 10 years. This means that the deprecated metadata methods in org.apache.sis.metadata.iso (or at least our capability to (un)marshall according the old XML schema) may need to stay there for 10 years. So metadata generated by Apache SIS would hopefully stay compatible with Geonetwork for a while.

About the schedule: I hope to finish metadata upgrade in 2 weeks. We already incorporated the main changes, and I started reviewing for the changes that we missed.

    Regards,

        Martin


Le 23/07/14 11:48, Emmanuel Blondel a écrit :
Thanks Martin,
At now, i'm working on moving to Apache SIS on a separate branch...i've still this pending issue of marshalling (cf other post).

Ideally, i would have liked to merge this branch, but I could try to use Geotk snapshot, also i'm very interested in the process of upgrading ISO19115 version. Do you yet know when this upgrade and new Geotk milestone are planned?

How is going to be updgraded ISO 19115: is there backward compatibility with the first version or not? in other words, if i move to 4.0-snapshot (and later, the new milestone), Do i have to move to the ISO 19115:2014? My concern on this, is that i use geotoolkit to generate metadata that i then publish in a Geonetwork instance..., and i don't know if the ISO19115:2014 might give problems with the metadata publication. What do you think?

Emmanuel



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