Hi,

It is not a trivial work to acknowledge the offsets when RDD is fully 
processed, I think from my understanding only modify the KafakUtils is not 
enough to meet your requirement, you need to add a metadata management stuff 
for each block/RDD, and track them both in executor-driver side, and many other 
things should also be taken care :).

Thanks
Jerry

From: mukh....@gmail.com [mailto:mukh....@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mukesh Jha
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:31 PM
To: Tathagata Das
Cc: francois.garil...@typesafe.com; user@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: KafkaUtils explicit acks

Thanks TD & Francois for the explanation & documentation. I'm curious if we 
have any performance benchmark with & without WAL for spark-streaming-kafka.

Also In spark-streaming-kafka (as kafka provides a way to acknowledge logs) on 
top of WAL can we modify KafkaUtils to acknowledge the offsets only when the 
RRDs are fully processed and are getting evicted out of the Spark memory thus 
we can be cent percent sure that all the records are getting processed in the 
system.
I was thinking if it's good to have the kafka offset information of each batch 
as part of RDDs metadata and commit the offsets once the RDDs lineage is 
complete.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Tathagata Das 
<tathagata.das1...@gmail.com<mailto:tathagata.das1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am updating the docs right now. Here is a staged copy that you can
have sneak peek of. This will be part of the Spark 1.2.

http://people.apache.org/~tdas/spark-1.2-temp/streaming-programming-guide.html

The updated fault-tolerance section tries to simplify the explanation
of when and what data can be lost, and how to prevent that using the
new experimental feature of write ahead logs.
Any feedback will be much appreciated.

TD

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:42 AM,  
<francois.garil...@typesafe.com<mailto:francois.garil...@typesafe.com>> wrote:
> [sorry for the botched half-message]
>
> Hi Mukesh,
>
> There's been some great work on Spark Streaming reliability lately.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcJq3ZalXD8
> Look at the links from:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3129
>
> I'm not aware of any doc yet (did I miss something ?) but you can look at
> the ReliableKafkaReceiver's test suite:
>
> external/kafka/src/test/scala/org/apache/spark/streaming/kafka/ReliableKafkaStreamSuite.scala
>
> -
> FG
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Mukesh Jha 
> <me.mukesh....@gmail.com<mailto:me.mukesh....@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Guys,
>>
>> Any insights on this??
>> If I'm not clear enough my question is how can I use kafka consumer and
>> not loose any data in cases of failures with spark-streaming.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mukesh Jha 
>> <me.mukesh....@gmail.com<mailto:me.mukesh....@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Experts,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a spark app which reads data from kafka & persists it in
>>> hbase.
>>>
>>> Spark documentation states the below [1] that in case of worker failure
>>> we can loose some data. If not how can I make my kafka stream more reliable?
>>> I have seen there is a simple consumer [2] but I'm not sure if it has
>>> been used/tested extensively.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if there is a way to explicitly acknowledge the kafka
>>> offsets once they are replicated in memory of other worker nodes (if it's
>>> not already done) to tackle this issue.
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Using any input source that receives data through a network - For
>>> network-based data sources like Kafka and Flume, the received input data is
>>> replicated in memory between nodes of the cluster (default replication
>>> factor is 2). So if a worker node fails, then the system can recompute the
>>> lost from the the left over copy of the input data. However, if the worker
>>> node where a network receiver was running fails, then a tiny bit of data may
>>> be lost, that is, the data received by the system but not yet replicated to
>>> other node(s). The receiver will be started on a different node and it will
>>> continue to receive data.
>>> https://github.com/dibbhatt/kafka-spark-consumer
>>>
>>> Txz,
>>>
>>> Mukesh Jha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>>
>> Mukesh Jha
>
>


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