This is all starting to sound a lot like what's already implemented in
Java-based PMML parsing/scoring libraries like JPMML and OpenScoring. I'm
not clear it helps a lot to reimplement this in Spark.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Felix Cheung <felixcheun...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 on that. It would be useful to use the model outside of Spark.
>
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> Subject: Re: thought experiment: use spark ML to real time prediction
> To: Nirmal Fernando <nir...@wso2.com>
> Cc: Andy Davidson <a...@santacruzintegration.com>, Adrian Tanase <
> atan...@adobe.com>, user @spark <user@spark.apache.org>
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> Do you think it will be useful to separate those models and model
> loader/writer code into another spark-ml-common jar without any spark
> platform dependencies so users can load the models trained by Spark ML in
> their application and run the prediction?
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> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nir...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> As of now, we are basically serializing the ML model and then deserialize
>> it for prediction at real time.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Adrian Tanase <atan...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t think this answers your question but here’s how you would
>>> evaluate the model in realtime in a streaming app
>>>
>>> https://databricks.gitbooks.io/databricks-spark-reference-applications/content/twitter_classifier/predict.html
>>>
>>> Maybe you can find a way to extract portions of MLLib and run them
>>> outside of spark – loading the precomputed model and calling .predict on
>>> it…
>>>
>>> -adrian
>>>
>>> From: Andy Davidson
>>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:31 PM
>>> To: "user @spark"
>>> Subject: thought experiment: use spark ML to real time prediction
>>>
>>> Lets say I have use spark ML to train a linear model. I know I can save
>>> and load the model to disk. I am not sure how I can use the model in a real
>>> time environment. For example I do not think I can return a “prediction” to
>>> the client using spark streaming easily. Also for some applications the
>>> extra latency created by the batch process might not be acceptable.
>>>
>>> If I was not using spark I would re-implement the model I trained in my
>>> batch environment in a lang like Java  and implement a rest service that
>>> uses the model to create a prediction and return the prediction to the
>>> client. Many models make predictions using linear algebra. Implementing
>>> predictions is relatively easy if you have a good vectorized LA package. Is
>>> there a way to use a model I trained using spark ML outside of spark?
>>>
>>> As a motivating example, even if its possible to return data to the
>>> client using spark streaming. I think the mini batch latency would not be
>>> acceptable for a high frequency stock trading system.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> P.s. The examples I have seen so far use spark streaming to “preprocess”
>>> predictions. For example a recommender system might use what current users
>>> are watching to calculate “trending recommendations”. These are stored on
>>> disk and served up to users when the use the “movie guide”. If a
>>> recommendation was a couple of min. old it would not effect the end users
>>> experience.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
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