+1 for keeping Apache Storm maintained and +1 for Taylor as PMC! Am Fr., 3. Feb. 2023 um 14:58 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Vermeerbergen < avermeerber...@gmail.com>:
> +1 for whatever makes Apache Storm to be maintained as long as > possible, including my time if needed ! > > Alexandre > > Le ven. 3 févr. 2023 à 14:54, Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> a écrit : > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am also +1 for Taylor as PMC and please count me in as well (my first > > comment was a bit vague about it). > > > > Looks like, that the discussion is going well. We know see a lot of > > involvement ;-) (didn't see that for years on this list!). > > > > Gruß > > Richard > > > > > > Am Freitag, dem 03.02.2023 um 13:20 +0000 schrieb Julien Nioche: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'd be happy to get involved. I haven't delved deep into Storm's code > > > but have been using it for years and my project StormCrawler relies > > > heavily on it. I have been a committer on several Apache projects but > > > not been active in any of them for a while. > > > I know that there are loads of StormCrawler users and of course that > > > also makes them Storm users. Even though a number of people might > > > have moved to other platforms, I don't believe Storm is dead and > > > maintenance mode is probably an accurate description. So if you are > > > willing to lower the bar, please count me in and am definitely +1 for > > > Taylor as a PMC chair. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Julien > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 at 05:07, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > IMO, there are tow scenarios: > > > > > > > > 1. Storm is in dead. No one uses it anymore, and no one needs > > > > security patches, etc. > > > > 2. Storm is in maintenance mode. While new features may not be > > > > added, there are enough contributors left tp at least address any > > > > security concerns. > > > > > > > > Wether we pursue the attic o projectr continuation is really up to > > > > the community. Anyone who want to step up and help continue the > > > > project should be considered a PMC candidate. > > > > > > > > As I’ve said in other threads, I’m willing to act as PMC chair > > > > whatever the PMC decides. > > > > > > > > But for now we have ne official liaison to ther ASF board. PMC > > > > members need to elect a chair, whether we choose to continue or > > > > head to the attic. > > > > > > > > I would lean toward lowering the bar for PMC membership to anyone > > > > interested in ongoing maintenance. > > > > > > > > I’m still willing to serve as the board liaison (PMC Chair) in > > > > either case of retirement or continuation. I’d also support anyone > > > > else willing to take the position. The position needs to be filled > > > > either way. > > > > > > > > This is a decision that affects both developers and users. Thank > > > > you Aaron for bringing it to the attention of the broader > > > > community. > > > > > > > > -Taylor > > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 9:26 PM, sunil yadav <raosutn...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One side note looking to see what folks are migrating or moved to > > > > > if not using Storm actively. Any cloud native DAG platform to > > > > > recommend? > > > > > > > > > > -Sunil > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:12 PM Stephen Powis via user < > > > > > user@storm.apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Ah Yea, also not opposed to the move to the attic if it's > > > > > > determined to be most appropriate, but I had a similar > > > > > > experience as Richard where I submitted some PRs, asked for > > > > > > comments/thoughts/review, and even offered to take over > > > > > > ownership of one of the sub modules and got no responses. > > > > > > Perhaps I just submitted under the wrong forum to get an > > > > > > answer, but definitely a bummer, and would love to see the > > > > > > project/community get revived. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:09 PM Richard Zowalla < > > > > > > r...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Aaron, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am CC the users@ list as they weren't contained in the > > > > > > > initial > > > > > > > proposal. Perhaps, there are people or institutions in the > > > > > > > wild, who > > > > > > > want to volunteer or give it a try (still at the ASF level). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course it shouldn't prevent a VOTE for moving to the > > > > > > > attic, but an > > > > > > > additional try to get some more attention (if needed). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, dem 31.01.2023 um 08:00 -0600 schrieb Aaron > > > > > > > Niskode- > > > > > > > Dossett: > > > > > > > > Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > responses I > > > > > > > > am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean > > > > > > > the end of > > > > > > > > Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to > > > > > > > continue the > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > (just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > ASF. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla < > > > > > > > r...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I > > > > > > > did provide > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > feedback, > > > > > > > > > although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we > > > > > > > need some > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain > > > > > > > Storm in > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > relies on > > > > > > > > > Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I > > > > > > > am also > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 +0000 schrieb Bipin > > > > > > > Prasad: > > > > > > > > > > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor > > > > > > > Storm. Not > > > > > > > > > > quite sure about the process. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks—Bipin Prasad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode- > > > > > > > Dossett < > > > > > > > > > > doss...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Storm developer community, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Project > > > > > > > > > > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active > > > > > > > members. The PMC > > > > > > > > > > chair > > > > > > > > > > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since > > > > > > > volunteered > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > assume > > > > > > > > > > those duties. I myself am an inactive PMC member. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > project to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Attic [1]. I would view this as the natural > > > > > > > culmination of a > > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > successful Apache project and not as a mark of > > > > > > > failure. There > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > many, > > > > > > > > > > many successful and influential projects in the attic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to > > > > > > > reconstitute > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > PMC > > > > > > > > > > with *new members* of the development community willing > > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > Software > > > > > > > > > > Foundation board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested > > > > > > > in that > > > > > > > > > > role. > > > > > > > > > > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > appropriate. A > > > > > > > > > > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you for your time, > > > > > > > > > > Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >