ok so your take is i want to reference a HTML component to uniquely identify a component in lieu of idso we're on the same page the HTML spec says The id attribute assigns a unique identifier to an element (which may be verified by an SGML parser). For example, the following paragraphs are distinguished by their id values: <P id="myparagraph"> This is a uniquely named paragraph.</P> <P id="yourparagraph"> This is also a uniquely named paragraph.</P>
The id attribute has several roles in HTML: As a style sheet selector. As a target anchor for hypertext links. As a means to reference a particular element from a script. As the name of a declared OBJECT element. For general purpose processing by user agents (e.g. for identifying fields when extracting data from HTML pages into a database, translating HTML documents into other formats, etc.). Unique quality of id attributehow else can the User-Agent Browser uniquely refer to a element in a document if you do not have an id... Suitable alternatives to replace unique idHow would an optional request parameter (such as title) be used to uniquely reference a component (instead of referring to unique identifier attribute) http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2 Martin Gainty ______________________________________________ Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Ez az üzenet bizalmas. 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N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:36:19 +0100 From: t.anneess...@ictjob.be To: user@struts.apache.org CC: mgai...@hotmail.com; w.gha...@ictjob.be Subject: Re: Inconsistency in Struts2 s:component parameters handling Dear Martin, According to struts documentation: "id" is not required. However it seems that even if I do not specify a value for "id", Struts will assign an empty String value to it, which would prove what you are saying. Maybe the documentation should be adapted to indicate that id is required and that it has a default value which is an empty string. I note that if a parameter value is specified using both an attribute and the param tag, the attribute value will be used. This would explain the behavior we are observing for "id". Assuming all this is right, I do not think that it should influence the way to use s:component. IMO, the fact that a default value is assigned to a parameter should not impact the way we can specify/override the parameter value. Given all these facts, is it reasonable to assume that this behavior will not change in future Struts releases? Thanks again for your time Martin. Best regards, Thim. On 11/30/2012 03:42 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: correct.. ID is a required attribute of the component tag title is a parameter scoped at request level which will be suffixed for the call to your Action e.g. YourAction?title='title' since ID is already a required attribute for every component it would not make sense to *also add ID as the more generalised request parameter* (since ID is already specified as the required attribute for the component) Make cents? Martin ______________________________________________ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:20:42 +0100 From: t.anneess...@ictjob.be To: mgai...@hotmail.com; user@struts.apache.org; w.gha...@ictjob.be Subject: Re: Inconsistency in Struts2 s:component parameters handling Hi Martin, Thank you for your time but I am not sure that it answers my question. Here is some code to illustrate: This works: <s:component template='HighlightPanel.jsp' id="newsletter-subscribe-box"> <s:param name="title">Welcome to our site</s:param> .... </s:component> This does not work: <s:component template='HighlightPanel.jsp'> <s:param name="title">Welcome to our site</s:param> <s:param name="id">newsletter-subscribe-box</s:param> ... </s:component> The "id" parameter is not sent to the "HighlightPanel.jsp" component. In the s:component documentation, there seems to be no distinction between the "title" parameter and the "id" parameter. Why this inconsistent behavior? Could this behavior change in future releases? Best regard, Thim Anneessens. On 11/30/2012 01:56 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: <s:url var="url" action="Welcome"> <s:param name="request_locale">en</s:param> </s:url> <s:a href="%{url}">English</s:a> This param tag will 1)add the parameter "?request_locale=en" to the Welcome Action URL, and 2)store it under the name "url". The a tag then injects the "url" reference into the hyperlink. This request_locale parameter will be picked up by the I18n Interceptor, and change your Locale accordingly. Any number of parameters can be added to the URI by adding more param tags. the Struts doc explanation appears to be clear on the use of params to build out the parameter(s) list http://struts.apache.org/2.0.11.2/docs/using-tags.html so in your case title would be request scoped id would not be request scope since every component would require an id does this conform to your understanding Martin ______________________________________________ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. 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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:56:47 +0100 From: t.anneess...@ictjob.be To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: Inconsistency in Struts2 s:component parameters handling Hello, We are using Struts 2.3.1.2 and have noticed a strange behavior in component parameter handling: We have a component that uses both an "id" parameter and a "title" parameter. What is strange is that when we use s:component, the "title" parameter value can either be specified using the "title" attribute of s:component or a s:param. The "id" parameter value can only be specified using the "id" attribute of s:component. Using the s:param for "id" has no effect. There seems to be no pertinent explanation for this behavior in the documentation and I was wondering if this behavior would evolve in further versions. We are currently using s:param to specify our numerous "title" parameters and hope that it will always be possible in the future. Could anyone shed some light on this inconsistent behavior? Best regards, -- Thim Anneessens IT Department ictjob.be Tel: +32 2 725 73 00 Terhulpsesteenweg, 6B B-1560 Hoeilaart ictjob.lu Tel: +352 621 364 792 12, rue Eugène Ruppert L-2453 Luxembourg jobtic.fr Tel: +33 9 81 25 19 66 19 rue Martel 75010 Paris ticjob.es Tel: +34 911 25 43 11 Calle Santo Tomé 4, 5B 28004 Madrid ictjob.de Tel: +49 711 91 41 07 32 Humboldtstr. 32 70771 Leinfelden-Echterdingen -- Thim Anneessens IT Department ictjob.be Tel: +32 2 725 73 00 Terhulpsesteenweg, 6B B-1560 Hoeilaart ictjob.lu Tel: +352 621 364 792 12, rue Eugène Ruppert L-2453 Luxembourg jobtic.fr Tel: +33 9 81 25 19 66 19 rue Martel 75010 Paris ticjob.es Tel: +34 911 25 43 11 Calle Santo Tomé 4, 5B 28004 Madrid ictjob.de Tel: +49 711 91 41 07 32 Humboldtstr. 32 70771 Leinfelden-Echterdingen -- Thim Anneessens IT Department ictjob.be Tel: +32 2 725 73 00 Terhulpsesteenweg, 6B B-1560 Hoeilaart ictjob.lu Tel: +352 621 364 792 12, rue Eugène Ruppert L-2453 Luxembourg jobtic.fr Tel: +33 9 81 25 19 66 19 rue Martel 75010 Paris ticjob.es Tel: +34 911 25 43 11 Calle Santo Tomé 4, 5B 28004 Madrid ictjob.de Tel: +49 711 91 41 07 32 Humboldtstr. 32 70771 Leinfelden-Echterdingen
