On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:41:53 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A lot of my feelings on this have been posted on another thread, so I
> just want to ask one question from Mark's message.
> 
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:55:25 +0100, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > As an auxilary point I have no idea why rendering javascript links was
> > considered a good option for commandLink. As its the only means of
> > generating dynamic menus with the standard tags, it ,means that those
> > rancid little spiders that cant read javascript wont be able to index
> > the pages.
> 
> Can you please describe a technique whereby a hyperlink can submit a
> form, *without* using JavaScript?  I'm sure the JSF RI team would be
> happy to implement that; we didn't like having to use JavaScript
> either, but could not identify a solution that met the submission
> requirement.

Craig

Okay submitting a form perhaps not, but having a mechanism where
outputLink or something can call an action/action listener. As things
are there is no provision to be able to simply generate a simple
navigation bar/list of links.

Perhaps allowing commandLink outside a form would, that renders
differently could be one idea. So when <h:commandLink
action="#{fooBean.someLink}" /> it would render a link. How that link
would render to call the target method in the backing bean I'm not
certain.

The link is still a command. Despite disliking the javascript, I was
prepared to live with it. But there's little I can do if it doesn't
work.

I hope JSF does come through, but as a user I've been stung badly and
as a result less brave in my choices of technology adoption. I didn't
touch JSF for 1.0 to avoid any bleeding edge problems, waited until
1.1 figured I'd live with multipart forms not being supported. But
still ended up getting cut.

Mark


> 
> Note that just composing the correct URL into a hyperlink and doing a
> GET doesn't count -- that won't restore the state of the component
> tree if the application developer is using client side state saving.
> 
> Craig
>

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