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Jim Barrows wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:49:11 -0500, Erik Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jim Barrows wrote:



On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:24:01 -0800 (PST), nitin dubey
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I respectfully disagree with this (unless you guys are talking about
some other specific product or framework that I'm not recognizing) so I
thought you should hear another opinion. I use Struts and like it, and
would even go so far as to say it's the first thing I would consider in
many situations, but I wouldn't tell you that you can't build a good Web
app without it (or any other framework for that matter). I have built



Building a web app without a pre-built, done ofr you framework? It's kind of like the difference between going to the tire store and
buying a tire, as opposed to sticking a spigot in a rubber tree (or
however they get rubber these days), and building it yourself.
Then you get into what happens to those who come after you? The one
thing I hate doing is trying to figure out someonelses undocumented
framework. Where do you go for help? Who's responsible for fixing
it? Where does your client get your expertise if your not available?
If I'm not writing business specific code, I'm wasting my clients
money. I use other peoples well known and documented frameworks
whenever possible.





some nice Web applications that didn't use any controller framework
(other than my own) or even any tags or any JavaScript for that matter.



My definition of a good web site includes "No Javascript".




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