HUZZAH! +1  This is about AJAX, not about JavaScript.  I am with those
who say that if you don't like abortion, don't have one.  Also, if you
don't like JavaScript, don't use it.  But, in the middle of an AJAX
discussion all this pro and con JavaScript discussion is ridiculous.

Jack

On 4/19/05, Jason King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We need to agree to disagree on the virtue/detriment of javascript in
> web pages.  Different applications for different audiences with
> different purposes have different solutions.
> At my company we've implemented intranet apps where the users do a
> significant amount of heads-down data entry.  They need validation and
> adding in of date and telephone mark-up and they want it to happen
> without waiting for a server round-trip.  That needed some heavy js.
> Other applications have been internet apps where we needed to support
> the widest variety of browsers and os'es.  For that environment js is
> anathema.
> Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, April 19, 2005 10:47 am, Erik Weber said:
> >
> >
> >>I, with respect for the author, disagree with this entirely.
> >>
> >>I am people, and this is not what I expect or desire at all. As a user,
> >>I expect and desire 1) A fast download 2) my bookmarks to work/easy to
> >>remember URLs 3) an organized and well-thought-out left rail 4) a go
> >>home link at the top 5) a two-field registration 6) an encrypted log on
> >>7) content I can read in a text-only browser. None of these require any
> >>browser scripting at all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You describe a good web SITE, and I couldn't agree with your criteria
> >more!  However, what you don't describe well is a web APPLICATION.
> >
> >Web APPLICATIONS are where the scripting is, generally, needed, and where
> >the UI tends to be more complex.
> >
> >
> >
> >>And most importantly, I want information that I regard as being of great
> >>quality. Anything beyond the seven I mentioned only gets in my way.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >No doubt, information is what makes it all worth it, absolutely.  I might
> >have a nice Mac OS UI, but if all it can show me is Wiggles videos and
> >3rd-grade math and naked pictures of Rue Paul, the information stinks and
> >the whole thing isn't worth anything to me.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Erik -- who prefers mail2web to GMail.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Frank -- who would prefer to never have the words "naked pictures of Rue
> >Paul" enter his brain again under ANY circumstances!
> >
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