You are so totally confused and wrong about what I am about, James. First, the "us versus them theory" was not about what you assumed but in fact an agreement about the "banning" policy you discussed. You generally seem to have very mistaken ideas about what I am doing.
I have not proposed code for Struts. You might think I have because you do things very differently than I do. I would not do that (propose such code) unless it were something like an IoC with interfaces for the core classes. Indeed, a lot of my griping is about the imposition of tangential code into the Struts core. So, I have no gripes at all related in any way to code being or not being included and that has never been an issue. That is probably something that might bother you or something. I could care less about that. I think that changes are far too liberal, not too limited. I have never proposed a thing which I would think should be added. You really need to think about why you would think that. Anyway, I really have no desire to battle you on anything at all. I just am a bit sensitive to people who talk down to or talk crossly with me. I don't put up with that. When someone does that, I respond. That has nothing to do with coding, using code, blah, blah. I also don't care for games and general misconduct, and when I see it, I mention it. So do you. We just differ on what we care about. You can do what you like. I would like the same consideration. Thanks. Jack On 4/24/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whatever anyone thinks. I am not happy that you are so agitated. > > If I could do something sensible to help, I would. I do think that > > people are generally more than capable of making their own > > decisions about what they want to read. There is little chance > > for competition in the arean of ideas if those in power exercize > > that power to extinguish ideas and submissions they find a thorn > > on their rose. > > See, that's what kills me. You are still stuck on this "us and them" > theory. > > You seem to be pretty good at creating new accounts with GMail, here's what > you can do: > - go out to SourceForge.net > - create a new Project > - add all your code you've been working on that you say "those in > power" have been "extinguishing [your] ideas and submissions" > - complete any one of the projects > - make a release available for download > - make an [ANNONCEMENT] on the Struts or others mailing list > inviting all interested parties to try it. > > The best way to provide (force) an enhancement into Struts is to > do so through a plug-in. > > If people actually use your plug-in, there will be discussion about > it. That's exactly what happened with many other projects. > > Here's just a couple of examples: > - struts-menu http://struts-menu.sourceforge.net/ > - security-filter http://securityfilter.sourceforge.net/ > - struts test case http://strutstestcase.sourceforge.net/ > > There are many others out there I have not even mentioned. > > Here's another similar example: > > Back in 2002, several people were asking if it was possible to use a > database to store their i18n'd resource bundle instead of the default one > provided by Struts. So I sat down and wrote one, but ran into a few > issues... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg40667.html > > Now, what became of that idea? Like your idea, there was not much interest > by the committers. Instead of whining about it, I decided to release it > under the same License that all ASF software uses. > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=49385&package_id=76369 > > I provide both the library, and a working copy of the struts-example > modified to demonstrate it's use. And in the years it has been available, I > have received many thank-you emails from people I've never even heard of. > > Did my contribution make it into the Struts code? No. Did I commit it, > once I was asked to join the team? No. I followed the same procedure > outlined above. It's not something that enough people want, therefore it > doesn't belong there. And since it is so easy to use by adding a jar and > changing your struts-config.xml, there's really no reason to add it. > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist > Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > AIM: jmitchtx > Yahoo: jmitchtx > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
