On 8/22/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Rick Reumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Ok, I'll try this with Shale, although I'm really surprised the framework > > (JSF) doesn't take care of this for you by default? In struts it's so > > simple, I simply forward to an Action that populates my employees. >
Some people find the need for separate setup and processing actions to be a usability issue with Struts :-). Of course, it's all about what you are used to, as well ... learning new idioms always seems more difficult than applying what you already know. > Consider that Struts added services on top of Servlets and JSP... and now > Shale is adding services on top of JSF. You can only get so much into a > specification. ;) Some of it either has to wait for the next version, or > just doesn't belong in there to begin with. > The timing issue was definitely important when we were trying to finish up JSF 1.0 ... if we'd made it a requirement to cover all the functionality of every important web framework in existence, we'd still be working on it :-). That being said, one of the roles Shale will likely play is a proving ground for what sorts of functionality *should* be added in a JSF 2.0 type time frame. That lets the innovation and experimentation happen where it works best (in an open source environment) before APIs get locked down into a standard. Craig --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]